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why did we have statues of confederate generals in the first place
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during the civil rights movement many of the statues were put up in opposition to it
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"Will never be comparably replaced?"
Well not with that defeatist attitude, sweetie.
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FrenchCrunch posted...
why did we have statues of confederate generals in the first place To prop up a myth of the "lost cause" and generally symbolize that white supremacy was still the rule in the South.
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Can the right wing at least start by admitting that not all of the confederate statues are beautiful? Some of them are pedestrian at best.
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Troll in chief
Trumpeters should be so proud |
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FrenchCrunch posted...
why did we have statues of confederate generals in the first place An attempt to whitewash the Confederate legacy. Effectively attempting to erase history.
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this is probably the ugliest statue that I've ever seen |
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BLAKUboy posted...
FrenchCrunch posted... a lot of them were responses to the civil rights movement |
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he's just doubling down and i f***ing love it. keep going, Trumpy, please. send your approval rating below 30, you're almost there!
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StraightMACLIN posted...
Imagine celebrating a general who lost a war. Right? He wasn't just captured either.
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I'm pretty sure we execute traitors, not memorialize them.
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I love how the alt-right coming to the defense of these statues has only accelerated efforts to bring them down.
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Phantom_Nook posted...
I love how the alt-right coming to the defense of these statues has only accelerated efforts to bring them down. "We're being oppressed!!" ~Alt-Reich, probably
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I'm sort of with Trump on this in a way. Specifically I don't see a need to take them down. However I don't care if they are if that's how the people that live there feel.
Here's my stance... Let the actual city the statues are in decide what to do. Everyone else stfu.
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Finally doing something right for a change.
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He's either:
1. Racist 2. Trolling Anerica 3. Trying to make Republicans look bad as a double agent.
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Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/898169407213645824 Crazy to think that statues are somehow considered history Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/898171544236687361 I forgot how Washington and Jefferson led a revolt against our country Antifar posted... https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/898172999945392131 I don't know if he's actually looked at some of the statues, but they were hideous. Not to mention quite a few black people having to go to a park with those men there |
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boxington posted...
There's something really off with the head, or was that what they were going for? It reminds me of those bobble heads.
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StraightMACLIN posted...
Imagine celebrating a general who lost a war. People still have lots of respect for Nazi General, Erwin Rommel >_> |
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On the subject of Trump and Civil War history, some might recall this story from the campaign
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/politics/in-renovation-of-golf-club-donald-trump-also-dressed-up-history.html Between the 14th hole and the 15th tee of one of the club’s two courses, Mr. Trump installed a flagpole on a stone pedestal overlooking the Potomac, to which he affixed a plaque purportedly designating “The River of Blood.”
kin to all that throbs
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He's doubling down on idiocy, I see.
This man has a part missing.
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Bluebomber182 posted...
http://bit.ly/2q6B3Y8 I always find it funny how the British Empire committed more unspeakable acts of racism than the Confederacy for literal centuries yet the Union Jack is now a cool and hip pop culture symbol while the Confederate flag is seen as a symbol of hatred and racism Funny how that works
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CapnMuffin posted...
Specifically I don't see a need to take them down. Probably because the statues aren't in reference to your freedom. |
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That part would be a human soul, the man is the living embodiment of Greed and Narcissism.
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i think a lot of people in the south dont see the statue as a symbol of racism, its more about their heritage of having a separate history/culture from people in the north, honoring their fallen people in the civil war, etc.
obviously racism and slavery is a HUGE component in this but IMO a lot of these guys kind of just block out that part, now whether or not it's ingrained dog whistling or just willful ignorance is up for debate. ive met a bunch of people from the south and they definitely do feel very disconnected from life up in the northeast in a lot of ways.
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I'm boggled by the alt-left comment
like, that literally was created this weekend by Hannity and it's annoying to hear him double-down on the whole "they're trying to destroy history" narrative. this comment from the reddit thread said it well, I think The thing is, he doesnt give two s***s about the statues. The only way he would even care is if it was a statue of himself. |
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CapnMuffin posted...
Isn't that what's happening already
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More evidence that this so-called president is already in lame duck status. He doesn't operate on the same wavelength as senate/house GOP members nor the people in general, so how then can he ever hope to move his agenda?
Analysts are saying he's on a one man island, and that's what it seems like.
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emblem boy posted...
CapnMuffin posted... Not when a pissed off mob pulls it down in the meantime. |
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emblem boy posted...
Isn't that what's happening already IIRC didn't the city council in Charlottesville vote to remove the statues then that's when the nazis descended on the city?
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tremain07 posted...
boxington posted... The dude reminds me of Lord Farquaad |
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
More evidence that this so-called president is already in lame duck status. He doesn't operate on the same wavelength as senate/house GOP members nor the people in general, so how then can he ever hope to move his agenda? What ? Trump's agenda is to use the government to enrich himself and he's been doing that without pause already, see how he nickel and dimes his staff by forcing them to stay at his s***ty resort every weekend
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emblem boy posted...
CapnMuffin posted... No, they're being taken down by Democratic politicians to further their own political gain. Here in NOLA when it was suggested to bring the issue to a city wide vote, it was shot down by Mitch Landrieu who knew if it was brought to a vote they wouldn't have went with his s***ty publicity stunt |
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That_Happened posted...
CapnMuffin posted... Probably. But I would assume if I was black I would be more concerned about modern racism (see: the people making a huge deal of this) rather than the statue specifically or its historical context.
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CapnMuffin posted...
That_Happened posted... They are more concerned about modern racism. But they're also concerned about the governments of their states sponsoring the confederacy. You can be concerned about more than one thing at a time. |
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People said Trump wasn't racist. No he defends a man who kidnapped free black people to send them into slavery.
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That_Happened posted...
CapnMuffin posted... ...what
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ZombiePelican posted...
The VP of the CSA said that their new nation was the ONLY nation in history to founded on the idea that black people were subservient to white people. Maybe things like that..
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CapnMuffin posted...
That_Happened posted... I think there's an aspect of "These statues help reinforce the racism in modern society" that goes into the calculus. |
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The US and UK have been around hundreds of years, with legitimate accomplishments to go with very real wrongs. The Confederacy lasted for five years, and held as their goal the defense of slavery as an institution.
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Chad-Henne posted...
tremain07 posted... This is the only confederate statue we need. it's terrible and I love it lmao
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CapnMuffin posted...
That_Happened posted... If the southern states have monuments to the confederacy on public land and in their parks, and we're talking about going through the proper governmental channels to remove them, then the state or local government is saying they're ultimately ok with these statues. |
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Anteaterking posted...
Jewish people would not be asked to be ok with a Hitler monument funded by their tax dollars.
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cuts national parks budget
the beauty that will be taken out of our parks will never be replaced! because i won't pay for them
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What a terrible statue.
The dude's face looks completely off I'm not sure if its because of the angle, but his anatomy around his shoulders is f***ed They didn't even f***ing try with the horse
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cjsdowg posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think there's an aspect of "These statues help reinforce the racism in modern society" that goes into the calculus.
Jewish people would not be asked to be ok with a Hitler monument funded by their tax dollars.
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Anteaterking posted...
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He's agreeing with you.
kin to all that throbsThat statue is near my house
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cjsdowg posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think there's an aspect of "These statues help reinforce the racism in modern society" that goes into the calculus.
Jewish people would not be asked to be ok with a Hitler monument funded by their tax dollars.
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Why the ???
If someone went into a Jewish community and tried to build a monument to Hitler no one would expect them to be fine with that .
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That statue is near my house
Stuff a rubber sextoy in its mouth, and see how long it takes anyone to notice.cjsdowg posted...
Anteaterking posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Anteaterking posted...
I think there's an aspect of "These statues help reinforce the racism in modern society" that goes into the calculus.
Jewish people would not be asked to be ok with a Hitler monument funded by their tax dollars.
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Why the ???
If someone went into a Jewish community and tried to build a monument to Hitler no one would expect them to be fine with that .
It seemed like you were disagreeing with my statement.
this moron just doesn't f***in get it...let him keep digging himself deeper...he's lost a majority of this country, he's lost many of his own republicans.cjsdowg posted...
If someone went into a Jewish community and tried to build a monument to Hitler no one would expect them to be fine with that .
it would last about half an hour
And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not.Anteaterking posted...
It seemed like you were disagreeing with my statement.
no it didntDrizztLink posted...
I'm pretty sure we execute traitors, not memorialize them.
This.Questionmarktarius posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
That statue is near my house
Stuff a rubber sextoy in its mouth, and see how long it takes anyone to notice.
It's on the side of the interstate surrounded by a fence. There is no public access to it
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cuts national parks budget
the beauty that will be taken out of our parks will never be replaced! because i won't pay for them
On topic:
Took White Supremacists off the terror groups to defend against, even though they commit more attacks and cause more death yearly.
Defunded Life After Hate, a program that works to safely remove Neo Nazis and other white supremacists from the groups.
We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons.lol traitorsglitteringfairy posted...
It's on the side of the interstate surrounded by a fence. There is no public access to it
That just means you'll have to try harder.
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this is probably the ugliest statue that I've ever seen
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I've seen that statue everywhere, is that actually who it's supposed to be of?
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http://signavatar.com/26999_s.pngcjsdowg posted...
The VP of the CSA said that their new nation was the ONLY nation in history to founded on the idea that black people were subservient to white people.
And that somehow scrubs the Union Jack from being the sybol of an empire who committed atrocities against anyone not white the Confederacy could have only dreamt of how exactly?
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boxington posted...
this is probably the ugliest statue that I've ever seen
wow
tremain07 posted...
boxington posted...
this is probably the ugliest statue that I've ever seen
There's something really off with the head, or was that what they were going for? It reminds me of those bobble heads.
ancient greek prostrat of making heads bigger on "larger than life" statues because they look odd otherwise
just terribly executed here, like the rest of the statue
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f***ing lol
And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not.DrizztLink posted...
I'm pretty sure we execute traitors, not memorialize them.
Why didn't the North do this? Rebels are usually executed but the US is like the only country that didn't do that to theirs.
If the American revolution failed, you know for sure that the founding fathers would have been swinging from the gallows.CrimsonRage posted...
DrizztLink posted...
I'm pretty sure we execute traitors, not memorialize them.
Why didn't the North do this? Rebels are usually executed but the US is like the only country that didn't do that to theirs.
If the American revolution failed, you know for sure that the founding fathers would have been swinging from the gallows.
johnson pardoned the confederates to help patch the country upFrenchCrunch posted...
why did we have statues of confederate generals in the first place
When it comes to Robert E Lee, he actually was a positive force in reconciliation with the North. He surrendered to end further violence, spoke out against a continued insurgency against the North, encouraged Southern representatives to listen to Northern representatives, and went on to run a university. So I could definitely see why we would have some monuments of him in post-Civil War. He basically became a symbol of reconciliation and reconstruction.
ClunkerSlim posted...
When it comes to Robert E Lee, he actually was a positive force in reconciliation with the North. He surrendered to end further violence, spoke out against a continued insurgency against the North, encouraged Southern representatives to listen to Northern representatives, and went on to run a university. So I could definitely see why we would have some monuments of him in post-Civil War. He basically became a symbol of reconciliation and reconstruction.
what is he remembered forFrenchCrunch posted...
ClunkerSlim posted...
When it comes to Robert E Lee, he actually was a positive force in reconciliation with the North. He surrendered to end further violence, spoke out against a continued insurgency against the North, encouraged Southern representatives to listen to Northern representatives, and went on to run a university. So I could definitely see why we would have some monuments of him in post-Civil War. He basically became a symbol of reconciliation and reconstruction.
what is he remembered for
Well that's a loaded question since what we remember him for is directly related to what we teach about him. American History is something that gets glossed over and boiled down to its simplest terms until you get into specific higher education classes.
ClunkerSlim posted...
Well that's a loaded question since what we remember him for is directly related to what we teach about him. American History is something that gets glossed over and boiled down to its simplest terms until you get into specific higher education classes.
so the people who erected these statues in the 50s and 60s were doing it because of his efforts after the war?This guy is actually president
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FrenchCrunch posted...
why did we have statues of confederate generals in the first place
When it comes to Robert E Lee, he actually was a positive force in reconciliation with the North. He surrendered to end further violence, spoke out against a continued insurgency against the North, encouraged Southern representatives to listen to Northern representatives, and went on to run a university. So I could definitely see why we would have some monuments of him in post-Civil War. He basically became a symbol of reconciliation and reconstruction.
He also was an absolute genius when it came to war.
I recall having to do a book report years ago in a US History college course, so I chose him. I don't recall the specifics, but I believe he was 1 of the few reasons that the South even came close to defeating the North during the Civil War, due to his ability w/ using various strategies to win many battles, despite often-times being outnumbered badly.
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~bonafide, qualified to hypnotize, tranquilize~CapnMuffin posted...
I'm sort of with Trump on this in a way. Specifically I don't see a need to take them down. However I don't care if they are if that's how the people that live there feel.
Here's my stance...
Let the actual city the statues are in decide what to do. Everyone else stfu.
Agreed. Go through legal channels, don't act like animals.
Breezy_Style posted...
He also was an absolute genius when it came to war.
I recall having to do a book report years ago in a US History college course, so I chose him. I don't recall the specifics, but I believe he was 1 of the few reasons that the South even came close to defeating the North during the Civil War, due to his ability w/ using various strategies to win many battles, despite often-times being outnumbered badly.
Yet he got his ass handed to him by Grant and Meade, hell Hooker would have beat him if he wasn't a wuss.
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^_^iosifsvoboda posted...
I heard they are putting an osama bin laden statue up
How will we know who that is if they don't?
I think he's just trolling now
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I think he's just trolling now
I really think he's just lost it. We already know he acts like a child. This is his "whatever! If they're gonna be mad at me I'll give them something to be mad about!"...he ran for greed, petty revenge and to boost his own ego. Now his ego is taking hits and he doesn't know how to handle it like an adult.Progressive extremists behaving in a manner not unlike what the Taliban did to statues that offended them. The first step in erasing history is to destroy all visual reminders of it.
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The first step in erasing history is to destroy all visual reminders of it.
Ask yourself why the south isn't dotted with statues and commemorations to emancipation. Why, instead, they put up marble Confederates and portrayed them as noble warriors for a doomed cause.
kin to all that throbsKolibri X posted...
The first step in erasing history is to destroy all visual reminders of it.
Explain how not honoring horrible people is erasing history.
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?I like how this week, there's a YUGE debate on these statues, like they will make any difference at all if left there or removed.
People have been complaining about everything for years, but it's in overdrive mode now that Trump struck enough nerves with college kids, and they're using this to their advantage to get as much done as possible.
Tear them all down, it won't matter. It'll just enrage the racist people even more, so enjoy the fallout from it.
If you just accepted their backward way of thinking, they wouldn't turn toward extremism. Oh wait.
Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla och ga och dricka mjod med honom.Uncle Choad posted...
Tear them all down, it won't matter. It'll just enrage the racist people even more, so enjoy the fallout from it.
Oh darn. Nazis don't like it. I'm real broken up about it...
We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons.They actually managed to make Ronaldo look ugly with that statue lol....
GavirulaxUncle Choad posted...
If you just accepted their backward way of thinking, they wouldn't turn toward extremism. Oh wait.
wtf is this
"let the nazis and kkk do their thing and it'll be ok"
Antifar posted...
Ask yourself why the south isn't dotted with statues and commemorations to emancipation.
WTF is this s***? We have lots of statues of Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, and Harriet Tubman. And for the record, the Lee statue in Virginia is located in what is now known as Emancipation Park. The Confederate monuments are pretty few and far between.
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Uncle Choad posted...
If you just accepted their backward way of thinking, they wouldn't turn toward extremism. Oh wait.
wtf is this
"let the nazis and kkk do their thing and it'll be ok"
It's me mocking people like Justin Trudeau for blaming "Islamophobia" for terrorism. Anyone who hurts or hates is disgusting.
Oden ska fa sin hamnd. Jag ska doda er alla och ga och dricka mjod med honom.I like how my city built an Arthur Ashe statue on a street filled with Confederate heroes. But Virginia is the same state that thought Lee-Jackson-King Day was a good idea for decades
Uncle Choad posted...
It's me mocking people like Justin Trudeau for blaming "Islamophobia" for terrorism.
Ugh...
Yeah let's blame a word coined by the crappy Muslim Brotherhood for their own stupid violence.
Trudeau is f***ing terrible.
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