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DEA chief slams Trump for dangerous rhetoric

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NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#1
HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#2
Speaking up about what?

Did you even watch the clip of President Trump?

What did he say specifically that is so offensive?
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Fam_Fam 9 hours ago#3
HypnoCoosh posted...
Speaking up about what?

Did you even watch the clip of President Trump?

What did he say specifically that is so offensive?


that, as a cop, it's ok not to treat people nicely if you want to
HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#4
just watch this video

https://tinyurl.com/preview.php?num=ybnrtak7

and don't be a butthead about it just watch it this is the context of the speech.
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voldothegr8 9 hours ago#5
Says the head of the department who vigorously fights weed legalization because that would remove his easy targets.
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NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#6
HypnoCoosh posted...
Speaking up about what?

Did you even watch the clip of President Trump?

What did he say specifically that is so offensive?

The president encouraged police brutality, specifically by suggesting police bash suspects heads on their cars.

voldothegr8 posted...
Says the head of the department who vigorously fights weed legalization because that would remove his easy targets.

I know right? You know Trump is truly f***ed up when the DEA cheif of all people feels compelled to say he's going too far.
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HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#7
Literally defending MS-13

How old are you because I get the feeling you are naive to the context of this speech.
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HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#8
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Sephiroth1288 9 hours ago#9
Won't somebody think of the poor child sex traffickers???
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VectorChaos 9 hours ago#10
The literal DEA posted...

Acting DEA Administrator Chuck Rosenberg wrote that he felt obligated to respond to the president’s comments “because we have an obligation to speak out when something is wrong.” He cited the agency’s core values — among them integrity, accountability and respect and compassion.


Did he keep a straight face while spewing that load?
NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#11
HypnoCoosh posted...
Literally defending MS-13

How old are you because I get the feeling you are naive to the context of this speech.

I'm not going to entertain your strawman and ad hominem, learn to formulate a reasonable argument if you want to be taken seriously.
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NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#12
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Won't somebody think of the poor child sex traffickers???

Strawman
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HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#13
NadYobWoc posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Literally defending MS-13

How old are you because I get the feeling you are naive to the context of this speech.

I'm not going to entertain your strawman and ad hominem, learn to formulate a reasonable argument if you want to be taken seriously.


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Damnit you got me. I should have known better
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TheVipaGTS 9 hours ago#14
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"
HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#15
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Won't somebody think of the poor child sex traffickers???


He's a 4k troll let it go
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HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#16
TheVipaGTS posted...
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"


You're projecting but that's fine because you're a poor little victim aren't you vipa. Imagine letting something so simple define who you are as a person.
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NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#17
HypnoCoosh posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Literally defending MS-13

How old are you because I get the feeling you are naive to the context of this speech.

I'm not going to entertain your strawman and ad hominem, learn to formulate a reasonable argument if you want to be taken seriously.


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Damnit you got me. I should have known better

Another ad hominem. Why not discuss the issue at hand? 

Also, I'm CowboyDan
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TheVipaGTS 9 hours ago#18
HypnoCoosh posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"


You're projecting but that's fine because you're a poor little victim aren't you vipa. Imagine letting something so simple define who you are as a person.


i know you have no friends but this isn't the way to get them, man.
FrenchCrunch 9 hours ago#19
guys, criminals have rights too. we don't want to set a dangerous precedent, not to mention the people who are wrongfully arrested. what if they get "roughed up?"
NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#20
HypnoCoosh posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Won't somebody think of the poor child sex traffickers???


He's a 4k troll let it go

When you can't formulate a rational thought, divert, divert divert...

A strategy of fools, cowards, and traitors
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The Deadpool 9 hours ago#21
HypnoCoosh posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Won't somebody think of the poor child sex traffickers???


He's a 4k troll let it go


Is that how you kids measure worth now?

Although the irony of responding to an accusation of ad hominem with this is pretty damned funny...
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VectorChaos 9 hours ago#22
HypnoCoosh posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"


You're projecting but that's fine because you're a poor little victim aren't you vipa. Imagine letting something so simple define who you are as a person.


Wonder what his feelings are on physically assaulting "nazis"
NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#23
VectorChaos posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"


You're projecting but that's fine because you're a poor little victim aren't you vipa. Imagine letting something so simple define who you are as a person.


Wonder what his feelings are on physically assaulting "nazis"

Strawman

I'm noticing a theme here
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HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#24
TheVipaGTS posted...
i know you have no friends but this isn't the way to get them, man.


Ha, if you think I want you as a friend you have another thing coming. 

I only surround myself with positive thinking people not cry babies who think society is out to get them. 


Winners > losers any day of the week.
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TheVipaGTS 9 hours ago#25
VectorChaos posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"


You're projecting but that's fine because you're a poor little victim aren't you vipa. Imagine letting something so simple define who you are as a person.


Wonder what his feelings are on physically assaulting "nazis"

I discussed this in the other topic about this...

I don't encourage it, but I won't feel sympathy for it. If some random dude on the street wanted to punch a ms-13 gang member i'd also feel no sympathy..I do hold our cops to a higher standard though and I don't think they should be dishing out justice in the form of "roughing" people up...That goes for Nazi's too. Wrongful arrests, wrong place at the wrong time...s*** like that happens all the time...The cop isn't there to beat or rough people up. They're there to arrest them. Leave it at that. There is no need for them to do more.
TheVipaGTS 9 hours ago#26
HypnoCoosh posted...
Ha, if you think I want you as a friend you have another thing coming. 

oh no....I (like 99% of the people on this planet) would never want to be your friend....I'm just saying acting like this won't help with that 1% of desperate people who might be your friend...
HypnoCoosh 9 hours ago#27
The Deadpool posted...
Is that how you kids measure worth now?


It's a troll alt bro. 

If you do't get that there's nothing I can say to you.
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NadYobWoc 9 hours ago#28
Guys can we just talk about this without flinging s***.
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FrenchCrunch 9 hours ago#29
FrenchCrunch posted...
guys, criminals have rights too. we don't want to set a dangerous precedent, not to mention the people who are wrongfully arrested. what if they get "roughed up?"

@HypnoCoosh
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The Deadpool 9 hours ago#30
VectorChaos posted...
Wonder what his feelings are on physically assaulting "nazis"


*facepalm*

Richard Spencer is a terrible person. I love that someone punched him.

If the cops were to arrest the person who punched him though... That'd be fine too. He assaulted a citizen, and that's against the law.

The police's job is to uphold the law. That involves not being brutal to suspects. That's their job.

The idea the President is advocating for a police officer to break the law is absurd...
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KarmaMuffin 9 hours ago#31
HypnoCoosh posted...
Literally defending MS-13

How old are you because I get the feeling you are naive to the context of this speech.

We're not saying "oh please think of the poor gangbangers who rape children," more like "and if you're innocent but get caught up in this s*** by accident you will get unnecessarily hurt"

And forgetting that, there's also the idea that cops should be better than criminals and not just hurt them for no reason
I mean, you're just opening up yourself to lawsuits and then the city has to pay for the damages
HypnoCoosh 8 hours ago#32
TheVipaGTS posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Ha, if you think I want you as a friend you have another thing coming. 

oh no....I (like 99% of the people on this planet) would never want to be your friend....I'm just saying acting like this won't help with that 1% of desperate people who might be your friend...


seh6p

Just keep on doin your thing vipa :)
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VectorChaos 8 hours ago#33
NadYobWoc posted...
VectorChaos posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"


You're projecting but that's fine because you're a poor little victim aren't you vipa. Imagine letting something so simple define who you are as a person.


Wonder what his feelings are on physically assaulting "nazis"

Strawman

I'm noticing a theme here


Look at you pleading the fifth
NadYobWoc 8 hours ago#34
HypnoCoosh posted...
The Deadpool posted...
Is that how you kids measure worth now?


It's a troll alt bro. 

If you do't get that there's nothing I can say to you.

This is my only account, I closed my main like 3 months ago. I'm CowboyDan. 

You're afraid to discuss the issue, and are instead attacking me like a coward. Which is funny considering the fact that it's not my words that have you throwing a tantrum, but rather those of the DEA chief.
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NadYobWoc posted...
Guys can we just talk about this without flinging s***.

Literally impossible when CE's resident moderate posters show up.
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TheVipaGTS 8 hours ago#36
VectorChaos posted...
Look at you pleading the fifth

No response to my answer?
NadYobWoc 8 hours ago#37
VectorChaos posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
VectorChaos posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
*cop punches innocent person*
Why did you do that? "Oh its ok man...I just thought he was in ms-13 at the time, no hard feelings now, sorry bro"


You're projecting but that's fine because you're a poor little victim aren't you vipa. Imagine letting something so simple define who you are as a person.


Wonder what his feelings are on physically assaulting "nazis"

Strawman

I'm noticing a theme here


Look at you pleading the fifth

What? The question wasn't directed at me.

I believe violence against anyone who isn't an immediate threat is wrong, for the record.
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Antifar 8 hours ago#38
Rights apply to everyone, most especially the wrongdoers and criminals and undesired people. Mr. Nice Guy, as a general rule, doesn't have to worry about people trying to shut down his inoffensive speech or cruelly/unusually punish him for crimes committed.
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Sephiroth1288 8 hours ago#41
FrenchCrunch posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
guys, criminals have rights too. we don't want to set a dangerous precedent, not to mention the people who are wrongfully arrested. what if they get "roughed up?"

@ HypnoCoosh
@Sephiroth1288

I think you need to be awfully dishonest to take Trump's words there as an endorsement to beat up innocent people.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
FrenchCrunch posted...
guys, criminals have rights too. we don't want to set a dangerous precedent, not to mention the people who are wrongfully arrested. what if they get "roughed up?"

@ HypnoCoosh
@Sephiroth1288

I think you need to be awfully dishonest to take Trump's words there as an endorsement to beat up innocent people.

What does the head of the DEA have to gain by interpreting Trump's words that way?
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ChainedRedone 7 hours ago#43
Trump supporters are truly pathetic. Or they're just lonely trolls.
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voldothegr8 posted...
Says the head of the department who vigorously fights weed legalization because that would remove his easy targets.
scar the 1 7 hours ago#45
Two things:
- AFAIK, getting roughed up by police officers is not in the penal code. 
- Even if it were in the penal code, punishment is dealt after someone has been proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt in a court of law. Not to criminal suspects.

If you don't like the first fact, you're just dumb IMO, but if you disagree with the second fact, your opinion is extremely horrible because you're literally condoning a police state. MS-13 or not, it doesn't matter. Innocence until proven guilty is an important concept that needs to apply to every detained person in the country.
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FrenchCrunch 6 hours ago#46
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I think you need to be awfully dishonest to take Trump's words there as an endorsement to beat up innocent people.

That's not what I said. The police may be arresting the wrong person (unknowingly) and feel justified in roughing them up. Thoughts?
HypnoCoosh 6 hours ago#47
FrenchCrunch posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I think you need to be awfully dishonest to take Trump's words there as an endorsement to beat up innocent people.

That's not what I said. The police may be arresting the wrong person (unknowingly) and feel justified in roughing them up. Thoughts?


You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

You're projecting SJW talking points as some kind of argument. This is why Trump won and will likely win again in 2020. But I'm wasting my breathe.
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FrenchCrunch 6 hours ago#48
HypnoCoosh posted...
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

You're projecting SJW talking points as some kind of argument. This is why Trump won and will likely win again in 2020. But I'm wasting my breathe.

can you explain further? i'm willing to listen and consider
Axiom 6 hours ago#49
Good. Giving cops carte blanche to violate civil rights when they already show how little that means to them is an awful idea
Just more tone deafness from this joke president. Imagine if he had said this during the Baltimore riots surrounding Freddie Gray.
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    HypnoCoosh posted...
    You're projecting SJW talking points as some kind of argument. This is why Trump won and will likely win again in 2020. But I'm wasting my breathe.


    How is it you 4chan losers talk again?

    >insult others for talking points
    >uses the "this is why Trump won" meme
    FrenchCrunch 3 hours ago#52
    FrenchCrunch posted...
    HypnoCoosh posted...
    You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

    You're projecting SJW talking points as some kind of argument. This is why Trump won and will likely win again in 2020. But I'm wasting my breathe.

    can you explain further? i'm willing to listen and consider

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