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Is Trump actually that stupid?

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lilORANG 2 days ago#1
Is he actually that stupid? - Results (174 votes)
Yes, he is exactly as stupid as he comes across
72.99%
127
No, he is at least slightly smarter than he comes across
27.01%
47
Talking to my dad this weekend (who despises Trump) and he thinks Trump does outlandish things to distract. I think Trump is actually just stupid af. Which is it? 

Seems like an actual smart man wouldn't need distractions in the first place, might actually have gotten the ball rolling on a single policy initiative he's proposed, and wouldn't have hired a team that have resigned or had to be fired within 6 months. 

On the other hand, the media can spend like a full news day dissecting one tweet, so maybe he's doing stuff that isn't getting reported. 

But nah, I think he's just actually dumb as s***.
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.
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lilORANG 2 days ago#3
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.

as the president with the lowest 6 month approval ratings ever?

What a brilliant strategy.
Gafemage 2 days ago#4
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol
Bishop9800 2 days ago#5
Gafemage posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


gatorsPENSbucs...
is just a troll
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Gamer99z 2 days ago#7
I think it depends on the exact topic. I honestly think that generally speaking he's a relatively smart man. Just a lot of important things he's misguided, uninformed, and just had some dumb views on.
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BLAKUboy 2 days ago#8
At best he's senile af.
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i hate Trump, but even i realize he played the US like a fiddle

he's no evil genius, he's a f***in pumpkin
but you gotta have some brains for con artistry at the national level...

angry people who refuse to acknowledge he's a wily schemer are just leavin themselves open for the next Trump
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lilORANG 2 days ago#10
Trump is a salesman. He's not a politician. He can sell products very well, but when it comes to running a country he's dumb as bricks.
"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.
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lilORANG 2 days ago#13
Sephiroth1288 posted...
"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.

i'm confused. are you that student or are you quoting some hypothetical non-existent student?
Bishop9800 posted...
Gafemage posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol
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He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.

He knows how to rile people up and has made himself not only president but the most talked about man across the globe for 2 years straight

And during this entire time he has done over a dozen idiotic dangerous things but nothing has stuck because he has made people go crazy over nothing every few days so it is all just white noise.

He's smart, he understands the masses and ultimately how little they matter once you turn them on themselves.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.

He got a lot more than a million dollars, he also had access to all his dad's business connections. It's actually those connections that helped him out a great deal more than the million dollars he got. There is a pretty good chance Trump would have been a financial success even without the loan just by knowing the people his dad knew.
ElderPrice 2 days ago#17
I don't like to use the "s-word" (stupid) but I would agree that he seems very confused. I pray for him with a group of Elders to find his way and for America to be safe.
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
"Any idiot could take a loan of a million dollars and turn it into a billion", says a guy who took a student loan of $40,000 and turned it into a debt of -$80,000.

He got a lot more than a million dollars, he also had access to all his dad's business connections. It's actually those connections that helped him out a great deal more than the million dollars he got. There is a pretty good chance Trump would have been a financial success even without the loan just by knowing the people his dad knew.

Not only the "connections" and "Million dollar loan" he also got given prime real estate.

And even so f***ed up several times and was bailed out. He's a medicore businsessman.

To rephrase your snide point to make it more accurate "Most businsessmen given prime real estate, strong businsess connections and millions of dollars would be successful" is absolutely true.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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lilORANG 2 days ago#19
I mean, it's pretty much accepted by all that it's harder to be successful when you start out in a s*** position. So why wouldn't the corollary be true? It's easier to be successful when you start out in a great place. Like having a headstart in the race.
hockeybub89 2 days ago#20
Trump must be stupid or incompetent because he isn't very good at distracting people. He and his administration constantly do dumb s*** and still can't get literally anything done while they think everyone is looking away.
If that guy, a known billionaire, famous celebrity, real estate mogul, POTUS, is dumb, then what the f*** are we? 

I swear, you rabid haters just throw out insults, dumb and 'f*** Trump' like Tootsie Rolls on Halloween without any sort of noticeable effect... 

You know how many lifetimes you people would need to even earn a fraction of what he earns. Most of you still live with your mommies and daddies without any sort of meaningful responsibilities, and you're gonna call Trump, dumb? f*** outta here. Lmao
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Dathrowed1 2 days ago#22
He is probably smarter than people give him credit for. I mean he is not as dumb as OJ Simpson.
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I think it's important to define what you mean by smart/stupid before you can really debate it.

If you asked me if someone was smart, I wouldn't usually look at how successful someone was. Sometimes that can be an indicator, but there are plenty of people who are very successful without being smart, because they bring some other talent to the table.

In Trump's case, he's probably as smart as the average American. He doesn't seem like he would perform well on any standard metric of intelligence (granted, some of that has to do with his age). 

As far as his political intelligence is concerned, while he may have the people skills to tap into the fears of the middle class enough to become President, those same skills have not translated well to the actual presidency. It would be one thing if each of these distractions were helping him cover up for bad bills that were being passed or something, but instead the distractions are getting in the way of his policies. I can't remember who said this, but it seems like things like the transgender military incident and everything with the Mooch are distractions, but not as traps set for the media but rather Trump getting distracted.
He's pretty stupid.

Like, at the very least he could try and get widespread Republican support, but even Republicans can't stand him.
Bloodychess 2 days ago#25
He's smart enough to play the system and make millions as a business man

As a politician?

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cobain27 2 days ago#26
He's failed at everything he's done. He even managed to become president while losing the popular vote. He's never done anything to make me thing he's even of average intelligence.
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Darmik 2 days ago#27
Vicious_Dios posted...
If that guy, a known billionaire, famous celebrity, real estate mogul, POTUS, is dumb, then what the f*** are we?


People who don't have rich parents/family?

I think even the dumbest CEman on here would be rich if they started off in Trump's position. The easiest way to make money is to have money after all.
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cjsdowg 2 days ago#28
I don't know, I want to say it is an act to get people to fall in line. However you literally see this on school yard. Where people will follow someone who isn't that bright over the sane people.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.

The dude is like 70 something and his family has a history of mental issues in later life. He's not even as smart as he used to be. Also he was handed lots of money to begin with and bailed out by his daddy whenever he failed and had access to everything his dad acquired from the get-go
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Bishop9800 posted...
Gafemage posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.


Lol
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He wouldn't be where he is now if he was dumb. Anyone voting yes is just a troll vote.
He definitely doesn't demonstrate any of the qualities he used to get to where he is.
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metralo 1 day ago#33
NonDairyMiltank posted...
i hate Trump, but even i realize he played the US like a fiddle


I really don't think so. I think he's dumb as hell, and appealed to dumb as hell America. Its really telling that people love his speeches because "they feels so real" and because "He's talking to us like people". Well, so did Obama and everyone before them, but they sounded sorta educated.
John_Galt 13 hours ago#34
UnfairRepresent posted...
He's a lot smarter than people give him credit for.
Who is John Galt?
Superlinkbro 13 hours ago#35
ChromaticAngel posted...
Trump is a salesman. He's not a politician. He can sell products very well, but when it comes to running a country he's dumb as bricks.
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brain_soiled 13 hours ago#36
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?
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Doom_Art 13 hours ago#37
He's an idiot who can't run a country but he's quite good at talking himself up 

As for the whole "he plays dumb to manipulate the media and distract" defense

A) *glances at his approval ratings* Oh yeah he's so good at manipulating public opinion 
B) Distract from what? All his dumb s*** and horrible crap his admin does is regularly reported on
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Bullet_Wing 13 hours ago#38
brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?

This remark is hilariously hypocritical with your sig
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brain_soiled 13 hours ago#39
Bullet_Wing posted...
brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?

This remark is hilariously hypocritical with your sig


Then they're always hoping to try to manufacture faux "irony" to try to quickly end a debate that would ever focus on the disease of liberalism. Sorry, libby manchild. The "I know you are but what am I??" card doesn't work here.
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HypnoCoosh 13 hours ago#40
Trump's a horrible politician in the sense he can just do the jedi-mind tricks all the usual politicians use on the people.

He's cut and dry and says outlandish unfiltered s***. People are not used to that they are used to the usually slimy politicians that stick it in your bum and smile at you while they do it. 

Mark my words in the end after Trumps presidency it will be looked back on not in the same hateful light it is now and he will not be this "worst president ever" like all the chicken-littles are crying everyday.
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ReignFury 13 hours ago#41
Hes lucky to have inherited $40M
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Bullet_Wing 13 hours ago#42
brain_soiled posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?

This remark is hilariously hypocritical with your sig


Then they're always hoping to try to manufacture faux "irony" to try to quickly end a debate that would ever focus on the disease of liberalism. Sorry, libby manchild. The "I know you are but what am I??" card doesn't work here.

Adorable. You're doubling down on immaturity
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TedCruz2016 13 hours ago#43
hes a genius and you all are jealous haters.
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TrevorBlack79 13 hours ago#44
brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?


Because they're right. Trump's an idiot.
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rookieplayer03 13 hours ago#45
I'll be honest, I feel that critics of Trump are saying the same things as before he was elected and I still haven't heard any real valid points to the president being racist, homophobic, etc. I was on the fence in the election and still on the fence with the president right now but I feel that people throwing out buzzwords and insults without substantiating anything makes me less inclined to believe the president is stupid, homophobe, etc.
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HypnoCoosh 13 hours ago#47
brain_soiled posted...
Someone explain why liberals are totally fine with sounding like completely oblivious, uneducated adolescents like this?


@brain_soiled

Trump has been under attack from minute one. 

He's not a standard politician in any sense of the word. Simply we've never seen anyone as rough as him we are used to smooth talking slimy politicians that tell you whatever you need to hear to get elected.

Trump cares about America and his thought process is unconventional in the standard sense of do nothing politics we are used to seeing. Heck the senate is still being a bunch of do nothing politicians.

One day looking back Trump will be regarded in a much different light than he is in these very nasty times we are living in now.
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Bullet_Wing 13 hours ago#48
HypnoCoosh posted...
Trump cares about America

LMAO
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HypnoCoosh 13 hours ago#49
Bullet_Wing posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Trump cares about America

LMAO


Everyone is allowed their opinion even if we disagree.

You don't think he cares. I do, and so do other people.
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Bullet_Wing 12 hours ago#50
HypnoCoosh posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Trump cares about America

LMAO


Everyone is allowed their opinion even if we disagree.

You don't think he cares. I do, and so do other people.

Sorry you got conned by the conman. Hopefully once you eventually detox from the Kool-aid, you'll see the truth.
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    ReignFury 12 hours ago#51
    rookieplayer03 posted...
    I'll be honest, I feel that critics of Trump are saying the same things as before he was elected and I still haven't heard any real valid points to the president being racist, homophobic, etc. I was on the fence in the election and still on the fence with the president right now but I feel that people throwing out buzzwords and insults without substantiating anything makes me less inclined to believe the president is stupid, homophobe, etc.


    It looks to me like fair game since Trump constantly slings accusations without proof. Its like the fake pissgate story which I assume was written just to smear his name and humiliate him.
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    I think he's smarter than he comes across, but not nearly savvy enough for the position he's in
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    Vertania 12 hours ago#53
    Just look what happened with Sessions last week. First, Trump tweets about wishing he hadn't appointed him and the media suddenly starts defending Sessions. Then by the end of the week, Awan gets arrested and the Gaetz amendment changes the Russia collusion investigation to cover Comey, Clinton Foundation, Fusion GPS, etc. At the head of that investigation? AG Sessions. And now Trump is back to having "100% confidence" in him.

    There's also his strategy of "truthful hyperbole" that the media cannot stop falling for. He'll bring up something he wants to be mentioned but exaggerate it. The media jumps to correct him, thinking they're making him look like a dumbass, but they end up discussing exactly what he wanted them to. Most famously, we have this gem from NBC News:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/nbcnews/status/785299709342654465?lang=en
    HypnoCoosh 12 hours ago#54
    Pretty much this

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    Bullet_Wing 12 hours ago#55
    Vertania posted...
    Just look what happened with Sessions last week. First, Trump tweets about wishing he hadn't appointed him and the media suddenly starts defending Sessions. Then by the end of the week, Awan gets arrested and the Gaetz amendment changes the Russia collusion investigation to cover Comey, Clinton Foundation, Fusion GPS, etc. At the head of that investigation? AG Sessions. And now Trump is back to having "100% confidence" in him.

    You're misinterpreting that. It wasn't some big plan of Trump's. His treatment of Sessions pissed off a lot of his fanbase, and Trump started to see what would happen, so he backpedaled. Look at Breitbart and even Drudge making attacks on him. Trump didn't plan that s***. He just realized he f***ed up and tried to save face.
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    UnholyMudcrab 12 hours ago#57
    You mean a possibly demented 70 year old man may not be as smart as he was 40 years ago? Color me shocked!
    asdf8562 11 hours ago#59
    I feel real sorry for any Trump cultist. Trump could sell these guys manure.
    Like he really has them fooled that he isnt a corrupt politician. And the response is always, "but Hillary" or "but liberals." Convinced that only the left and Hillary supporters dont sip the orange kool aid.
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    Capn Circus 11 hours ago#60
    Bullet_Wing posted...
    HypnoCoosh posted...
    Bullet_Wing posted...
    HypnoCoosh posted...
    Trump cares about America

    LMAO


    Everyone is allowed their opinion even if we disagree.

    You don't think he cares. I do, and so do other people.

    Sorry you got conned by the conman. Hopefully once you eventually detox from the Kool-aid, you'll see the truth.


    Trump has already done plenty he promised to do in the campaign and we're only 6 months in. 

    Even CNN a few weeks into his presidency had their front page as "Trump is doing what he said he'd do".
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    HypnoCoosh 11 hours ago#61
    Capn Circus posted...
    Bullet_Wing posted...
    HypnoCoosh posted...
    Bullet_Wing posted...
    HypnoCoosh posted...
    Trump cares about America

    LMAO


    Everyone is allowed their opinion even if we disagree.

    You don't think he cares. I do, and so do other people.

    Sorry you got conned by the conman. Hopefully once you eventually detox from the Kool-aid, you'll see the truth.


    Trump has already done plenty he promised to do in the campaign and we're only 6 months in. 

    Even CNN a few weeks into his presidency had their front page as "Trump is doing what he said he'd do".


    I know this and so do a lot of people. But there is an unprecedented media hate and attack of anything the does. 

    I think a low was the two-scoops of ice-cream lol
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    lilORANG 1 hour ago#62
    Pretty clear consensus. He's really that stupid lmao. What an embarrassment.
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