Doom_Art posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Find us some smoke first, not meaningless crap like this.
This is lookin pretty smoky already.
The fact that you think it's meaningless does not make it so.
Telling your kid how to handle the press is not smoke. Holy s***, if you people cared this much about possible coverups then Hillary would be in jail 10 years ago
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kenio8187 posted...
Does anyone really think that idiot could hide a Russian collusion? Look, Russia VERY likely interfered. So did Britain, and China, and any other big super power. They probably interfere all the time in each others affairs.
But I do also highly doubt Trump was in collusion with Russia for it. Pretty sure it's just something Russia did on its own.
What the HELL are you talking about
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kenio8187 posted...
Does anyone really think that idiot could hide a Russian collusion? Look, Russia VERY likely interfered. So did Britain, and China, and any other big super power. They probably interfere all the time in each others affairs.
But I do also highly doubt Trump was in collusion with Russia for it. Pretty sure it's just something Russia did on its own.
Then you arent paying attention, at all.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...
s0nicfan posted...
So they admit trump helped his son craft his response to the meeting. That's bad. That still didn't mean he was colluding with the Russian government during the election. Unless the "Russia scandal" is now anything with the word Russia in it.
How much smoke does there have to be before you'll notice there is a fire here?
It's been almost 8 months of "ha we got him!" followed by nothing. How many times does the boy have to cry wolf before you notice there's nothing there?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Find us some smoke first, not meaningless crap like this.
This is lookin pretty smoky already.
The fact that you think it's meaningless does not make it so.
Telling your kid how to handle the press is not smoke.
Holy s***, if you people cared this much about possible coverups then Hillary would be in jail 10 years ago
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
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s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Anteaterking posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Doom_Art posted...
@s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.
i mean it's foolish of us to call anything at this early stage
but "he did something illegal but he can probably get away with it" is a rather bad defense.
The defense is "the boy has cried wolf too many times". We've done this song and dance over and over and over in the last 6 months and I have no faith that what the WaPo is reporting on is any more legit than every OTHER time they claimed he was definitively linked to Russia.
The White House confirmed the contents of the story.
Not according to that article. Have they released a statement since?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sanders-trump-worked-on-son-statement-russia-lawyer
So they admit trump helped his son craft his response to the meeting. That's bad. That still didn't mean he was colluding with the Russian government during the election. Unless the "Russia scandal" is now anything with the word Russia in it.
The article in the original post doesn't claim that Trump himself colluded with the Russian government during the election. And everything around the Trump campaign's interactions with Russians is the "Russia scandal", even if at no point there is enough evidence to tie Trump specifically to the Kremlin.
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kenio8187 posted...
So did Britain, and China
You're "whatabout-ing" right now kenio8187 posted...
But I do also highly doubt Trump was in collusion with Russia for it. Pretty sure it's just something Russia did on its own.
i mean that doesn't explain the weird links to his campaign or the bizarre pro-russia policy changes after Trump got the nomination
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Holy s***, if you people cared this much about possible coverups then Hillary would be in jail 10 years ago
literally but hillary
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
Still waiting for actual evidence.
And we're still waiting for you guys to figure out how investigations work. Probably gonna be a long wait.
Still waiting.
glitteringfairy: Just build the damn wall
ThyCorndog: and how exactly will that stop the mexican space program from orbital dropping illegal immigrants?
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Yo I dont know what you redhats are smoking it's pretty obvious trump and putin were on the same page and junior's email even confirmed it. Lol. Remember when Trump straight up ASKED Russia to release hilldog's missing emails??
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Doom_Art posted...
You're "whatabout-ing" right now
I'm not whatabout-ing. That would imply that I'm trying to bring attention to them too. What I'm saying is that Russia interfering is just to be expected. Our world is so interconnected nowadays, that it should just be assumed all great powers are always interfering at all times.
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NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging? And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
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here's how bernie can still win:
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The literal day before he leaves office at the end of his presidency, they'll still be putting out articles saying "guys it's really really really really really really really really really happening this time for sure we got him! Can we impeach in less than 24 hours?!"
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Swagnificent119 posted...
Washington post
*leaves topic
Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
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kenio8187 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
You're "whatabout-ing" right now
I'm not whatabout-ing. That would imply that I'm trying to bring attention to them too.
What I'm saying is that Russia interfering is just to be expected. Our world is so interconnected nowadays, that it should just be assumed all great powers are always interfering at all times.
No sorry Russia's interference was on a different plane than anything seen before and they're doing it in other countries too like in France with that Macron hack they posted on 4chan. Youre not some anti-globalist shill who trying to equivocate for the sake of some anti Europe agenda are you?
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NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
Delusion? Ok, please present the evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to mess with our election. If you can't, I'm afraid you're the deluded one, champ.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
LOL you dont give up. Your man Trump is working hand in glove with Fox News to advance bulls*** seth rich conspiracies and you retreat to wapo asking dnc for comment on a story.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
Delusion? Ok, please present the evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to mess with our election.
If you can't, I'm afraid you're the deluded one, champ.
This topic is the latest in a running tally of evidence
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
Delusion? Ok, please present the evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to mess with our election.
If you can't, I'm afraid you're the deluded one, champ.
A literal no you won't change anything. I hope youre able to handle whats coming, for your sake.
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NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
"Trump has no chance of winning the presidency."
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
This topic is the latest in a running tally of evidence
Evidence? I thought it was just smoke! Get your lies straight next time you're gonna post, k?
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s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
"Trump has no chance of winning the presidency."
"No one in Trump's campaign ever spoke to the Russians."
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
This topic is the latest in a running tally of evidence
Evidence? I thought it was just smoke!
Get your lies straight next time you're gonna post, k?
Smoke is evidence. Evidence isn't proof. This is basic stuff.
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Support trump and trash the Post all you want but putting your head in the sand about how the administration is actively trying to deceive us all is pathetic. They are lying to us all about information that either is or isn't important. Whether something happened or not, the fact that they can't tell us the truth is a problem no matter what political party you belong to.
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whitelytning posted...
Support trump and trash the Post all you want but putting your head in the sand about how the administration is actively trying to deceive us all is pathetic. They are lying to us all about information that either is or isn't important. Whether something happened or not, the fact that they can't tell us the truth is a problem no matter what political party you belong to.
Trump cultists are traitors
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NadYobWoc posted...
s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
"Trump has no chance of winning the presidency."
"No one in Trump's campaign ever spoke to the Russians."
Plenty of ppl in his campaign have spoken to Russians. Unfortunately that isn't the same as colluding with the Russian government. If your expectation is that any day now he'll be impeached, you're in for a long slow painful remaining 3 years.
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Mal Fet is the same person who said that NATO wasn't a thing before 9/11, that Nazi Germany was leftist, and that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay. It's laughable that he thinks we actually take him seriously because "he's not a Trump supporter guys!!!!!!!"
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal Fet is the same person who said that NATO wasn't a thing before 9/11, that Nazi Germany was leftist, and that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay.
It's laughable that he thinks we actually take him seriously because "he's not a Trump supporter guys!!!!!!!"
I've always loved the "nazis were leftists because they have socialism in thurr name" schtick. Whenever someone says that I can pretty much tell that they've never actually studied any of the writings of any of the parties leadership.
"If you wish to converse with me define your terms"
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ScazarMeltex posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal Fet is the same person who said that NATO wasn't a thing before 9/11, that Nazi Germany was leftist, and that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay.
It's laughable that he thinks we actually take him seriously because "he's not a Trump supporter guys!!!!!!!"
I've always loved the "nazis were leftists because they have socialism in thurr name" schtick. Whenever someone says that I can pretty much tell that they've never actually studied any of the writings of any of the parties leadership.
The worst part? That wasn't his argument.
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ScazarMeltex posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal Fet is the same person who said that NATO wasn't a thing before 9/11, that Nazi Germany was leftist, and that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay.
It's laughable that he thinks we actually take him seriously because "he's not a Trump supporter guys!!!!!!!"
I've always loved the "nazis were leftists because they have socialism in thurr name" schtick. Whenever someone says that I can pretty much tell that they've never actually studied any of the writings of any of the parties leadership.
He was trying to argue that the Nazis "seized the means of production".
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal Fet is the same person who said that NATO wasn't a thing before 9/11, that Nazi Germany was leftist, and that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay.
It's laughable that he thinks we actually take him seriously because "he's not a Trump supporter guys!!!!!!!"
I've always loved the "nazis were leftists because they have socialism in thurr name" schtick. Whenever someone says that I can pretty much tell that they've never actually studied any of the writings of any of the parties leadership.
The worst part?
That wasn't his argument.
Like what was it then? Because that's literally the only thing you could possibly stand on, and like I said even that doesn't stand up to even the slightest actual research.
"If you wish to converse with me define your terms"
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ScazarMeltex posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal Fet is the same person who said that NATO wasn't a thing before 9/11, that Nazi Germany was leftist, and that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay.
It's laughable that he thinks we actually take him seriously because "he's not a Trump supporter guys!!!!!!!"
I've always loved the "nazis were leftists because they have socialism in thurr name" schtick. Whenever someone says that I can pretty much tell that they've never actually studied any of the writings of any of the parties leadership.
The worst part?
That wasn't his argument.
Like what was it then? Because that's literally the only thing you could possibly stand on, and like I said even that doesn't stand up to even the slightest actual research.
They were socialists because they seized the means of production. That was his argument.
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s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
The world must look so simple when you ignore all context.
Context like there's still no proof that Trump colluded with Russia to affect the election despite almost a year of digging?
And how in the meantime, proof has arisen showing that news outlets like the Washington Post are shills for the DNC?
Delusion just makes the inevitable fall more painful.
"Trump has no chance of winning the presidency."
"No one in Trump's campaign ever spoke to the Russians."
Plenty of ppl in his campaign have spoken to Russians. Unfortunately that isn't the same as colluding with the Russian government. If your expectation is that any day now he'll be impeached, you're in for a long slow painful remaining 3 years.
He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign. Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.
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NadYobWoc posted...
Smoke is evidence.
No it f***in isnt, it's what you call s*** that isn't solid enough to be called evidence.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Mal Fet is the same person who said that NATO wasn't a thing before 9/11, that Nazi Germany was leftist, and that the Nazi's weren't anti-gay.
It's laughable that he thinks we actually take him seriously because "he's not a Trump supporter guys!!!!!!!"
I only ever said one of these things Because it is true.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Smoke is evidence.
No it f***in isnt, it's what you call s*** that isn't solid enough to be called evidence.
There are different qualities of evidence. For example, circumstantial evidence isn't very strong, and won't hold up in court on its own. It's still evidence. Hearsay is also evidence. Just not strong evidence. Learn words Mal.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Smoke is evidence.
No it f***in isnt, it's what you call s*** that isn't solid enough to be called evidence.
Little baby is angry. It's evidence, you not liking it doesnt change the meaning of the word.
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scar the 1 posted...
There are different qualities of evidence. For example, circumstantial evidence isn't very strong, and won't hold up in court on its own. It's still evidence.
Evidence that Trump advised Jr on how to handle the press is not evidence of colluding with Russia to subvert the election in any capacity. Stop acting dumb.
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Additionally, the word "smoke" isn't a technical term, it's alluding to the common saying that "there's no smoke without fire". In that metaphor, the smoke is most definitely evidence of there being a fire.
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scar the 1 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
Smoke is evidence.
No it f***in isnt, it's what you call s*** that isn't solid enough to be called evidence.
There are different qualities of evidence. For example, circumstantial evidence isn't very strong, and won't hold up in court on its own. It's still evidence. Hearsay is also evidence. Just not strong evidence. Learn words Mal.
I already had this argument with him in a previous topic and he wouldn't budge. Nothing is evidence unless it's a smoking gun I guess.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
There are different qualities of evidence. For example, circumstantial evidence isn't very strong, and won't hold up in court on its own. It's still evidence.
Evidence that Trump advised Jr on how to handle the press is not evidence of colluding with Russia to subvert the election in any capacity.
Stop acting dumb.
Guess the source of the following: Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion. This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion. At the other extreme is evidence that is merely consistent with an assertion but does not rule out other, contradictory assertions, as in circumstantial evidence.
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scar the 1 posted...
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.
If the assertion were that Trump advised his son on how to handle the Russian lawyer thing then you got him nailed, bro. But the actual assertion you're trying to make is that Trump worked with the Russian government in order to screw with the election, so you're still left with no supporting evidence.
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NadYobWoc posted...
He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign.
Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.
I refer you to my first post: s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.
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s0nicfan posted...
NadYobWoc posted...
He and his cultists spent months claiming there was no contact, which was a lie. And the Don Jr email explicitly states the meeting would be a part of the Russia governments support for the Trump campaign.
Taking a meeting with a Kremlin connected lawyer for the purpose of helping the campaign isnt collusion to you? Delusional.
I refer you to my first post:
s0nicfan posted...
and this time, this time, he's totally going to get indicted. The other hundred times were just practice.
Uhh isn't the investigation still ongoing? It's not up to reporters to charge him.
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Darmik posted...
Uhh isn't the investigation still ongoing? It's not up to reporters to charge him.
But they have been desperately seeking evidence to impeach him for a year now and they still haven't got anything. You'd think that the full force of the mainstream media's investigatory journalism would have turned up something by now, right?
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion.
If the assertion were that Trump advised his son on how to handle the Russian lawyer thing then you got him nailed, bro.
But the actual assertion you're trying to make is that Trump worked with the Russian government in order to screw with the election, so you're still left with no supporting evidence.
If the assertion is "Trump colluded with Russia", then him personally trying to cover up a meeting with a Russian lawyer is evidence. Not strong enough for a conviction, but then again collusion isn't a crime.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...
Darmik posted...
Uhh isn't the investigation still ongoing? It's not up to reporters to charge him.
But they have been desperately seeking evidence to impeach him for a year now and they still haven't got anything.
You'd think that the full force of the mainstream media's investigatory journalism would have turned up something by now, right?
This is why no one likes Trump fanatics.
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