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Can someone explain me how MAGA people see race?

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I just saw the exchange between the "oh so very unwhite" Jim Acosta and lightbulb-turned-matrix-agent Stephen Miller at the WH press conference.

This is Jim Acosta: https://dawm7kda6y2v0.cloudfront.net/uploads/2017/06/AP_17120439352054-654x362-f73c803.jpg

This is Agent lightbulb: https://cdn.someecards.com/posts/savage-burns-stephen-miller-trump-voter-fraud-cSm.png

How can Jim be an "unwhite evil hispanic" according to MAGA people, but Agent lightbulb is white, and "white is right"? Jim looks much whiter to me.

Now look at Jorge Ramos, who is originally from Mexico, aka "opposite from white country enemy of MAGA": http://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/news/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/jorge-ramos9.jpg . he even has light colored eyes!

Now look at cheeto's own son, who looks pretty dark to me, yet he is supposed to be white: http://crooksandliars.com/files/primary_image/16/11/trumpjr-800x430.jpg

How is this whole race thing supposed to work according to them?
darkace77450 5 days ago#2
Us vs Them.
EliteC 5 days ago#3
The one thing we can all agree: @TheHonorableOne doesn't fit the definition of white, much to his dismay :D
Coastal_elite 5 days ago#4
EliteC posted...
The one thing we can all agree: @TheHonorableOne doesn't fit the definition of white, much to his dismay :D


haven't you heard? He is a "honorary" one XD
Coastal_elite 5 days ago#5
darkace77450 posted...
Us vs Them.


huh?
Alesandros 5 days ago#6
Colorblind?
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Coastal_elite 5 days ago#7
Alesandros posted...
Colorblind?


huh?
Welcommatt 5 days ago#8
Coastal_elite 5 days ago#9
Welcommatt posted...
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/nYtYkZR


no, that's my point. Look at Ramos and Acosta, they look whiter than most white people. cheeto jr and miller don't even look white at all
Miller looks like he has a fake tan. And lipstick.
EliteC 5 days ago#11
str8Knowledge posted...
Miller looks like he has a fake tan. And lipstick.


He probably thought it would appeal to #45
hoax123 5 days ago#12
Personally, i cant imagine what its like to be so afraid of "scary brown people".
Lock her up!
Coastal_elite 5 days ago#13
hoax123 posted...
Personally, i cant imagine what its like to be so afraid of "scary brown people".


maybe a mexican took his lunch money lol
Gradieus 5 days ago#14
Coastal_elite posted...
How is this whole race thing supposed to work according to them?


We don't care about race, we care about nationality. Shocking I know.
Coastal_elite 5 days ago#15
Gradieus posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
How is this whole race thing supposed to work according to them?


We don't care about race, we care about nationality. Shocking I know.


come on, you're posting from an anonymous account in a small message board about politics inside a videogame message board. You can tell us how you REALLY feel.
Gradieus posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
How is this whole race thing supposed to work according to them?


We don't care about race, we care about nationality. Shocking I know.

That shouldn't matter at all either.
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Coastal_elite posted...
come on, you're posting from an anonymous account in a small message board about politics inside a videogame message board. You can tell us how you REALLY feel.
How about stop making assumptions about other people.

If you claim to be real Progressive, the color of their Skin / Ethnicity shouldn't even matter.
Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'
Coastal_elite 5 days ago#18
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
come on, you're posting from an anonymous account in a small message board about politics inside a videogame message board. You can tell us how you REALLY feel.
How about stop making assumptions about other people.

If you claim to be real Progressive, the color of their Skin / Ethnicity shouldn't even matter.


I merely asked them (and you) how they view race, since it's confusing they see as "brown enemies" some people with green eyes and pale skin like the mexican reporter I mentioned, while they see as "superior white titans" some people with very dark skin such as cheeto jr
Shoujo 5 days ago#19
Coastal_elite posted...
I merely asked them (and you) how they view race, since it's confusing they see as "brown enemies" some people with green eyes and pale skin like the mexican reporter I mentioned, while they see as "superior white titans" some people with very dark skin such as cheeto jr
I can only speak for me as a US Citizen.

The only thing I see is Legal US citizenship Documentation, or invalid papers / not legal to work in the US.

Period.

I don't give a crap about your Skin Color / Ethnicity / Nationality / What Planet you're freaking from / What sob story you have / What Handicap you have / etc.

If you legally pass our Immigration Laws to work here, then you're welcomed to start the Immigration process to Naturalize and Become a Citizen.

If you can't meet that threshold, so sad, too bad for you, try again in a few years once you meet ___ Requirements to get in and get a job.

We need to copy Canada's stringent Job Protection System, our's isn't good enough.

And we need to change the Citizenship laws to be more European such that at least one Biological Parent must be a Legal Citizen at the time of Birth of the Child before confering Citizenship onto said Child.

And we need to adjust H1B's Minimum Pay Requirement to adjust for inflation of $60,000 from 1989 to current year as the minimum salary.

And prevent "Temporary / Outsourcing Companies" from using it.

Stop replacing our Workers with cheap labor from outside as well.

If you replace our Aging Work Force for younger US citizens doing said job, then I'm ok with that.

That makes sense.

But to be replaced by somebody outside who will literally operate on a Buck a day isn't fair or even reasonable to compete against.
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Coastal_elite 5 days ago#21
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
I merely asked them (and you) how they view race, since it's confusing they see as "brown enemies" some people with green eyes and pale skin like the mexican reporter I mentioned, while they see as "superior white titans" some people with very dark skin such as cheeto jr
I can only speak for me as a US Citizen.

The only thing I see is Legal US citizenship Documentation, or invalid papers / not legal to work in the US.

Period.

I don't give a crap about your Skin Color / Ethnicity / Nationality / What Planet you're freaking from / What sob story you have / What Handicap you have / etc.

If you legally pass our Immigration Laws to work here, then you're welcomed to start the Immigration process to Naturalize and Become a Citizen.

If you can't meet that threshold, so sad, too bad for you, try again in a few years once you meet ___ Requirements to get in and get a job.

We need to copy Canada's stringent Job Protection System, our's isn't good enough.

And we need to change the Citizenship laws to be more European such that at least one Biological Parent must be a Legal Citizen at the time of Birth of the Child before confering Citizenship onto said Child.


thanks... but that is not what I asked.

I asked how do MAGA people (which you are one, correct) divide races. Why are the former not white despite their pale skin and green/blue eyes and the latter are white despite their dark skin and brown eyes?
Coastal_elite posted...
I asked how do MAGA people (which you are one, correct) divide races. Why are the former not white despite their pale skin and green/blue eyes and the latter are white despite their dark skin and brown eyes?
I'm not a MAGA person, I'm a Bernie person.
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RyanBraun8 5 days ago#23
As a political tool of course!
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EliteC 5 days ago#24
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
I asked how do MAGA people (which you are one, correct) divide races. Why are the former not white despite their pale skin and green/blue eyes and the latter are white despite their dark skin and brown eyes?
I'm not a MAGA person, I'm a Bernie person.


Good job ignoring the rest of his question
EliteC posted...
Good job ignoring the rest of his question
I'm not ignoring it, I can't answer it because I'm not qualified to answer it.
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OffDogs 5 days ago#26
Coastal_elite posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
come on, you're posting from an anonymous account in a small message board about politics inside a videogame message board. You can tell us how you REALLY feel.
How about stop making assumptions about other people.

If you claim to be real Progressive, the color of their Skin / Ethnicity shouldn't even matter.


I merely asked them (and you) how they view race, since it's confusing they see as "brown enemies" some people with green eyes and pale skin like the mexican reporter I mentioned, while they see as "superior white titans" some people with very dark skin such as cheeto jr

I judge people on actions and beliefs.
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PraetorXyn 5 days ago#27
Substitute "black" or "gay" for MAGA in the topic title and see if you read it differently.

The point is there's no such thing. You're basically taking a shared characteristic (for the sake of simplicity let's say the wearing of clothing with MAGA somewhere on it) and projecting a shared ideology onto everyone involved, which wouldn't be tolerated in the case of race, gender, or sexual orientation. It shouldn't be tolerated for any of them simply because it's sophistry, but I digress.

Some people really are the brainless sheep Trump supporters are portrayed as, some probably lost manufacturing jobs and to them MAGA means getting those jobs back, some have other interpretations.

Try not to let them divide you with this tribal "Us vs Them" nonsense as that's the slippery slope that leads to dehumanizing those you disagree with.
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G_I_B_B_O_N 4 days ago#28
The leader of the white supremacists is so proud of his white skin he spray tans it cheeto orange.
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Coastal_elite 4 days ago#29
OffDogs posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
come on, you're posting from an anonymous account in a small message board about politics inside a videogame message board. You can tell us how you REALLY feel.
How about stop making assumptions about other people.

If you claim to be real Progressive, the color of their Skin / Ethnicity shouldn't even matter.


I merely asked them (and you) how they view race, since it's confusing they see as "brown enemies" some people with green eyes and pale skin like the mexican reporter I mentioned, while they see as "superior white titans" some people with very dark skin such as cheeto jr

I judge people on actions and beliefs.


not what I asked
Coastal_elite posted...
How is this whole race thing supposed to work according to them?

"Race" always came off as as arbitrary pseudoscience like astrology/astromancy to me. I don't know even understand why they bother with it.
crillgamer 2 days ago#31
Every single rural area I've been to in northern NV and CA has brown/white working together and sharing a table at the local coffee shop. Every single one. I'm sure there's areas this don't happen but visit some of these places and ask them yourself.
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Hyena 20 2 days ago#32
The MAGA people are not a monolithic group. A majority are xenophobes. Many are racist. Many are not. Most of them don't care what someone's race is so long as they adapt to/assimilate American/western culture (i.e. they are pro-Trump alt-righters and are not Muslim or Middleastern.) Okay, actually, scratch that, more of them are racist than I was thinking. Just not against Hispanics or Blacks (except for blacks with "Arab-like" facial features, that is. I'm not joking.)
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ClayGuida 2 days ago#33
White vs wrong.
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epik_fail1 2 days ago#34
Gradieus posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
How is this whole race thing supposed to work according to them?


We don't care about race, we care about nationality. Shocking I know.


"I am not racist, I am a xenophobe"
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tankboy 2 days ago#35
One of the major difference between Nazis and Neo-Nazis is that the latter consider Slavs to be white.
EliteC 2 days ago#36
crillgamer posted...
Every single rural area I've been to in northern NV and CA has brown/white working together and sharing a table at the local coffee shop. Every single one. I'm sure there's areas this don't happen but visit some of these places and ask them yourself.


Yes. MAGA people feel this is a problem, and their "bad hombres" rhetoric is looking to "fix" that, they feel they should be enemies or at least segregated
EliteC 2 days ago#37
G_I_B_B_O_N posted...
The leader of the white supremacists is so proud of his white skin he spray tans it cheeto orange.


Lmao true
EliteC 2 days ago#38
Hyena 20 posted...
The MAGA people are not a monolithic group. A majority are xenophobes. Many are racist. Many are not. Most of them don't care what someone's race is so long as they adapt to/assimilate American/western culture (i.e. they are pro-Trump alt-righters and are not Muslim or Middleastern.) Okay, actually, scratch that, more of them are racist than I was thinking. Just not against Hispanics or Blacks (except for blacks with "Arab-like" facial features, that is. I'm not joking.)


Dude, bad hombres, build the wall, rapists n' criminals, "they're animals", blue lives matter so shoot shoot shoot; etc.

They hate them lol
atmasabr 2 days ago#39
How is this whole race thing supposed to work according to them?

Race is invisible to most white people.
Do your own research!
Minotaur92 2 days ago#40
I'm pretty sure Liberals and their identity politics have only seen race for the last two decades.
Hyena 20 2 days ago#41
tankboy posted...
One of the major difference between Nazis and Neo-Nazis is that the latter consider Slavs to be white.


It's the biggest difference, actually.

EliteC posted...
crillgamer posted...
Every single rural area I've been to in northern NV and CA has brown/white working together and sharing a table at the local coffee shop. Every single one. I'm sure there's areas this don't happen but visit some of these places and ask them yourself.


Yes. MAGA people feel this is a problem, and their "bad hombres" rhetoric is looking to "fix" that, they feel they should be enemies or at least segregated


Yes, but also bear in mind that part of their bigotry towards minorities is that "dey vote for evil liebrulz!" They show exponentially less animosity towards alt-right minorities-- and a large percentage even embrace the black ones. 

Their bigotry and xenophobia isn't just about race or culture, it's also about political ideology, esp. among ideological purists.
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Butthead24 2 days ago#42
Real conservatives believe in some version of meritocracy. Your race does not matter and should not play a factor and shouldnt influence any of your decisions about them. No unfair treatment. No special treatment. Merit. Anyone with a brain in their head and heart in their chest can grasp this. 

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