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Trump denounced "many sides" because antifa are just as bad

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On_The_Edge 16 hours ago#1
Don't pretend like antifa are any better than neonazis. Both groups were present and both caused their trouble.
We're here.
Omnislasher 16 hours ago#2
Glass_Phantom 16 hours ago#3
Antifa are not as bad as the KKK, no.

The KKK is the oldest terrorism organization in the world. Antifa has been around for one year.

The KKK has between 5,000 and 10,000 active members. Antifa has maybe one tenth of that.

The KKK has murdered hundreds of people and hanged people from trees. Antifa hasn't killed anyone.
UnfairRepresent 16 hours ago#4
Yeah a bunch of fat SJWs who want to feel special are equally as bad as f***ing Nazis....
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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bevan306 16 hours ago#5
neonazi's murdered someone and they have the support of the US president. Not really equivalent to antifa but good try
UnholyMudcrab 16 hours ago#6
Kid_Buu 16 hours ago#7
UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah a bunch of fat SJWs who want to feel special are equally as bad as f***ing Nazis....
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Webmaster4531 16 hours ago#8
Many is a weasel word that can be interpreted to mean not the nazis.
Ad Hominem.
gunplagirl 16 hours ago#9
Nazis: we want minorities dead or stripped of rights and kicked out of this country 
Antifa: we will stop you and protect minorities from your schemes
People like tc: well I can't see the difference
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Tezlok 16 hours ago#10
On_The_Edge posted...
Don't pretend like antifa are any better than neonazis. Both groups were present and both caused their trouble.

Thank you. I said the same thing in different wording yesterday though and got modded by a biased mod
Smashingpmkns 15 hours ago#11
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Remind me again which side actually killed someone yesterday
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ShotOJameson 15 hours ago#12
Without Neo-Nazi radicals there wouldn't need to be ANTIFA. Like they wouldn't exist, this is all created by white supremacist bigotry

trump is a f***ing moron.
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gunplagirl posted...
Nazis: we want minorities dead or stripped of rights and kicked out of this country 
Antifa: we will stop you and protect minorities from your schemes
People like tc: well I can't see the difference


The thing you're missing is that Antifa can't tell the difference between actual nazis and just some dude who has conservative opinions.

The kind who literally think JonTron is a Nazi and try to get Richard Dawkins banned from talking at colleges because he is a Nazi.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Tezlok 15 hours ago#14
Antifa beat up people
Axiom 15 hours ago#15
This is a stupid topic. You guys can say this over and over but it will never be true and I say this as someone who doesn't even like antifa
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The Admiral 15 hours ago#16
ShotOJameson posted...
Without Neo-Nazis there wouldn't need to be ANTIFA. Like they wouldn't exist, this is all created by white supremacist bigotry

trump is a f***ing moron.


Antifa is just a repackaging of the sour grapes protesters who have been violent since the election. Pretending they're combatting "fascism" is just the most recent excuse they use to justify aggression and violence over not getting their way.
- The Admiral
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Tezlok posted...
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!
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Darmik 15 hours ago#18
UnfairRepresent posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Nazis: we want minorities dead or stripped of rights and kicked out of this country 
Antifa: we will stop you and protect minorities from your schemes
People like tc: well I can't see the difference


The thing you're missing is that Antifa can't tell the difference between actual nazis and just some dude who has conservative opinions.

The kind who literally think JonTron is a Nazi and try to get Richard Dawkins banned from talking at colleges because he is a Nazi.


That's just internet and college drama. Pretty different compared to the protester clashes. Where people were indeed protesting literal Nazi's.
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Darmik
gunplagirl 15 hours ago#19
Glass_Phantom posted...
Antifa are not as bad as the KKK, no.

The KKK is the oldest terrorism organization in the world. Antifa has been around for one year.

The KKK has between 5,000 and 10,000 active members. Antifa has maybe one tenth of that.

The KKK has murdered hundreds of people and hanged people from trees. Antifa hasn't killed anyone.

Antifa is not an organization, it's a movement that dates back decades in europe and only exists to stand up to evil groups like the KKK

And you're ignoring the long history of unjustified attacks on others that have been spearheaded by the US government for centuries. Or the catholic church for that matter.
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ShotOJameson 15 hours ago#20
The Admiral posted...
ShotOJameson posted...
Without Neo-Nazis there wouldn't need to be ANTIFA. Like they wouldn't exist, this is all created by white supremacist bigotry

trump is a f***ing moron.


Antifa is just a repackaging of the sour grapes protesters who have been violent since the election. Pretending they're combatting "fascism" is just the most recent excuse they use to justify aggression and violence over not getting their way.


well maybe if the president in charge they protest against didn't all but promote these hate groups...
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gunplagirl 15 hours ago#21
UnfairRepresent posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Nazis: we want minorities dead or stripped of rights and kicked out of this country 
Antifa: we will stop you and protect minorities from your schemes
People like tc: well I can't see the difference


The thing you're missing is that Antifa can't tell the difference between actual nazis and just some dude who has conservative opinions.

The kind who literally think JonTron is a Nazi and try to get Richard Dawkins banned from talking at colleges because he is a Nazi.

Where's the list of victims beat up by antifa that people on ce keep referencing?
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The Admiral posted...
Antifa is just a repackaging of the sour grapes protesters who have been violent since the election.


Add "Antifa" to the list of subjects Admiral is ignorant about
Glass_Phantom 15 hours ago#23
The Admiral posted...
Antifa is just a repackaging of the sour grapes protesters who have been violent since the election. Pretending they're combatting "fascism" is just the most recent excuse they use to justify aggression and violence.


I'd say it's more than sour grapes. They are revolting against a demagogic president, with clear authoritarian tendencies, who exploits the racial grievance of Caucasian Americans for popular support, who lost the popular vote, and was aided and abetted by the illegal interference of an authoritarian foreign power (Russia). And that is against the backdrop of voter suppression of minority communities and racial gerrymandering of congressional districts which has been going on for decades, as well as the abuse of Congress to steal a Supreme Court nominee (Merrick Garland). There are reasons why Antifa are doing what they are doing, even if we disagree with their methods.
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Darmik 15 hours ago#24
Wait I'm confused.

Why wouldn't Trump voters want to protest against a Nazi rally? Doesn't this sorta go beyond left vs right?
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Tezlok 15 hours ago#25
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted...
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!

So because one side kills, the other side is excused to beat up innocent people? Sometimes antifa attacks people who haven't actually done anything. It's still wrong to beat up people no matter who your enemy is, especially if you attack bystanders
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Kid_Buu 15 hours ago#26
Tezlok posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted...
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!

So because one side kills, the other side is excused to beat up innocent people? Sometimes antifa attacks people who haven't actually done anything. It's still wrong to beat up people no matter who your when is, especially if you attack bystanders

i thought you said same thing both sides

in what world is punching someone the same as killing them
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UnholyMudcrab 15 hours ago#27
Tezlok posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted...
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!

So because one side kills, the other side is excused to beat up innocent people? Sometimes antifa attacks people who haven't actually done anything. It's still wrong to beat up people no matter who your when is, especially if you attack bystanders

Frankly, I'm astounded that you can't see the false equivalency that you're trying to draw here
Tezlok posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted... 
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!

So because one side kills, the other side is excused to beat up innocent people? Sometimes antifa attacks people who haven't actually done anything. It's still wrong to beat up people no matter who your enemy is, especially if you attack bystanders

And here you go downplaying murder while over playing assault. What's your intent here?
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SpreadManning 15 hours ago#29
Good on Trump for denouncing hate groups of all types.
gunplagirl 15 hours ago#30
Darmik posted...
Wait I'm confused.

Why wouldn't Trump voters want to protest against a Nazi rally? Doesn't this sorta go beyond left vs right?

Spoiler alert, the right has long since been in bed with Nazis and the Klan
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Tezlok 15 hours ago#31
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted... 
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!

So because one side kills, the other side is excused to beat up innocent people? Sometimes antifa attacks people who haven't actually done anything. It's still wrong to beat up people no matter who your enemy is, especially if you attack bystanders

And here you go downplaying murder while over playing assault. What's your intent here?

I don't like that antifa can attack a random person and then say later they were a Nazi to excuse it. Antifa are thugs
loafy013 15 hours ago#32
Darmik posted...
Wait I'm confused.

Why wouldn't Trump voters want to protest against a Nazi rally? Doesn't this sorta go beyond left vs right?

Because making liberals cry has been ingrained into their DNA at this point. Seeing people on the left hate Nazis makes Trump supporters automatically side with them.
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gunplagirl 15 hours ago#33
SpreadManning posted...
Good on Trump for denouncing hate groups of all types.

Nazis: I will kill all minorities if I have the chance
Antifa: we will fight you and will stop you
You: these two are both unjustified and I will only speak out against the latter
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Tezlok posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted... 
3rd_Best_Master posted... 
Tezlok posted... 
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!

So because one side kills, the other side is excused to beat up innocent people? Sometimes antifa attacks people who haven't actually done anything. It's still wrong to beat up people no matter who your enemy is, especially if you attack bystanders

And here you go downplaying murder while over playing assault. What's your intent here?

I don't like that antifa can attack a random person and then say later they were a Nazi to excuse it. Antifa are thugs

And here you are excusing murder. Are you even capable of self-awareness?
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Tezlok 15 hours ago#35
I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded
I wonder if it's a good idea to buy a food truck, and park it next to protests...
FaultyGourry 15 hours ago#37
gunplagirl posted...
Darmik posted...
Wait I'm confused.

Why wouldn't Trump voters want to protest against a Nazi rally? Doesn't this sorta go beyond left vs right?

Spoiler alert, the right has long since been in bed with Nazis and the Klan

This s*** right here needs to stop. It isn't helping anything.
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Tezlok 15 hours ago#38
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted... 
3rd_Best_Master posted... 
Tezlok posted... 
Antifa beat up people

Neo-nazis killed people. 

Wow, both sides are practically identical!

So because one side kills, the other side is excused to beat up innocent people? Sometimes antifa attacks people who haven't actually done anything. It's still wrong to beat up people no matter who your enemy is, especially if you attack bystanders

And here you go downplaying murder while over playing assault. What's your intent here?

I don't like that antifa can attack a random person and then say later they were a Nazi to excuse it. Antifa are thugs

And here you are excusing murder. Are you even capable of self-awareness?

How am I excusing murder? I never even mentioned it. You are just making up a story now
dj4242 15 hours ago#39
Antifa is a terrible organization
#MAGA
Got a Chris Paul mindstate, I'm never out of bounds
Tezlok posted...
I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded

You've been going out of your way to defend them killing someone for 2 days now. Gee, why do people keep on assuming you're a Nazi? We're gonna have to get Batman over here and figure out this one.
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Glass_Phantom 15 hours ago#41
How many churches has Antifa bombed?

How many school children has Antifa murdered?

How many innocent people has Antifa strung up and left swinging from trees?

How many innocent families has Antifa terrorized?

How many times has Antifa co-opted the justice system to get killers off the hook for murder?

What has Antifa done apart from street fighting and breaking a few windows? What have they done that's on par with the KKK?
NibeIungsnarf 15 hours ago#42
Can we please try to get Zikten to meltdown? We're already halfway there.
darkjedilink 15 hours ago#43
UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah a bunch of fat SJWs who want to feel special are equally as bad as f***ing Nazis....

Literally no different, unless you think the 'Nazis' of today in America are exactly the same as the ones in 1930's Germany.
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creativerealms 15 hours ago#44
But he would have no problem condemning antifa by name.
when you stub your toes it's the SJWs fualt.
Tezlok 15 hours ago#45
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted...
I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded

You've been going out of your way to defend them killing someone for 2 days now. Gee, why do people keep on assuming you're a Nazi? We're gonna have to get Batman over here and figure out this one.

I never defended them. All I said was they aren't Nazis. Because they aren't members of the historical Nazi party. Not my fault you like to leap to conclusions
^ Didn't they pepper spray a 16 year old girl in the face and start a riot?
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Spooking 15 hours ago#47
Funny how all of history matters now since it's the Nazis, but when dealing with Islamic terror attacks in America, they conveniently only count September 12, 2001 and onward as their starting line.
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Tezlok posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
Tezlok posted... 
I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded

You've been going out of your way to defend them killing someone for 2 days now. Gee, why do people keep on assuming you're a Nazi? We're gonna have to get Batman over here and figure out this one.

I never defended them. All I said was they aren't Nazis. Because they aren't members of the historical Nazi party. Not my fault you like to leap to conclusions

Not my fault you like to defend a bunch of dudes waving around swastikas and goose-stepping while downplaying the murder that one of them committed.
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gunplagirl 15 hours ago#49
FaultyGourry posted...
gunplagirl posted...
Darmik posted...
Wait I'm confused.

Why wouldn't Trump voters want to protest against a Nazi rally? Doesn't this sorta go beyond left vs right?

Spoiler alert, the right has long since been in bed with Nazis and the Klan

This s*** right here needs to stop. It isn't helping anything.

Answering their question is topically relevant. And true, since they're the ones fostering racists and not actually stopping them. They'll only speak out to defend free speech for armed militant Nazis, while condemning minority groups who organize peacefully.

Notice that even though they had guns and torches they didn't have the national guard there? Yet dozens get met with riot geared officers right away, and arrested around the nation at protests for the police murders of people of color.
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NibeIungsnarf 15 hours ago#50
Tezlok posted...
I never defended them. All I said was they aren't Nazis. Because they aren't members of the historical Nazi party. Not my fault you like to leap to conclusions

What an insanely stupid hill to die on.

And not even a correct one at that.
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    Axiom 15 hours ago#51
    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded

    You've been going out of your way to defend them killing someone for 2 days now. Gee, why do people keep on assuming you're a Nazi? We're gonna have to get Batman over here and figure out this one.

    I never defended them. All I said was they aren't Nazis. Because they aren't members of the historical Nazi party. Not my fault you like to leap to conclusions

    Shut the f*** up Zikten. You always try to use history to justify your insane logic and it never works
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    Raikuro 15 hours ago#52
    "omg BOTH sides are bad!" implies both sides are doing equally bad things, when it is obvious one side is literally evil and the other are just going slightly extreme in protesting them.
    Tezlok 15 hours ago#53
    Axiom posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded

    You've been going out of your way to defend them killing someone for 2 days now. Gee, why do people keep on assuming you're a Nazi? We're gonna have to get Batman over here and figure out this one.







    I never defended them. All I said was they aren't Nazis. Because they aren't members of the historical Nazi party. Not my fault you like to leap to conclusions

    Shut the f*** up Zikten. You always use history to justify your insane logic and it never works



    I think you are still not getting what my point was. I don't like Nazis. My only beef is with the proper definition of Nazi. It has nothing to do with liking a political party that would have sent me to a gas chamber fo my disability. So no
    You shut up and maybe call down and stop getting so worked up by my definitions
    K181 15 hours ago#54
    Far right: Actual protests involving nazis that think that minorities should be stripped of rights, klansmen actively persecute many and murder dozens annually, and these protests were the result of a traitor statue being brought down.

    Far left: Antifa sometimes calls people that aren't Nazis Nazis, there's occasionally some violence associated with the movement, and the protests stem from unprosecuted police murder of black teenagers.

    Yeah, clearly six of one, half a dozen of the other.
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    Tezlok 15 hours ago#55
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted... 
    I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded

    You've been going out of your way to defend them killing someone for 2 days now. Gee, why do people keep on assuming you're a Nazi? We're gonna have to get Batman over here and figure out this one.

    I never defended them. All I said was they aren't Nazis. Because they aren't members of the historical Nazi party. Not my fault you like to leap to conclusions

    Not my fault you like to defend a bunch of dudes waving around swastikas and goose-stepping while downplaying the murder that one of them committed.

    I'm not defending them. Learn to read. They are all a******s. Get a grip on reality
    KarmaMuffin 15 hours ago#56
    We don't have to pretend that Antifa are better than the Neonazi's because in reality the Neonazi's are so much worse
    Open up your eyes TC. I get that you're conservative and there's nothing wrong with that ideology, but your president's rhetoric has allowed hateful groups like the Alt-Right to flourish. It's time for you to step up and disavow them, unlike our Commander-in-Chief who walked away from reporters asking that. 
    Don't stoop to protecting them because you voted for a joke, don't attack the Left because your side has a bunch of racists.
    NibeIungsnarf 15 hours ago#57
    Tezlok posted...
    I don't like Nazis.

    Could have fooled anyone

    Tezlok posted...
    My only beef is with the proper definition of Nazi.

    Your beef is stupid and wrong and constantly makes you look like an awful person.

    Get a f***ing social clue and drop it
    Downplay murder, overstate assault. Such strong criticism.
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    Kid_Buu 15 hours ago#59
    antifa is bad but the nazis are many times worse
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    Tezlok 15 hours ago#60
    NibeIungsnarf posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    I don't like Nazis.

    Could have fooled anyone

    Tezlok posted...
    My only beef is with the proper definition of Nazi.

    Your beef is stupid and wrong and constantly makes you look like an awful person.

    Get a f***ing social clue and drop it

    How is a definition difference "awful person" material? Because I disagree on what the definition of a historical Nazi is, I am evil?
    Dampproof 15 hours ago#61
    One side is actively murdering american citizens and your President doesn't lift a finger to help America against Neo Nazi's

    GG Republicans truly American.
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    Tezlok 15 hours ago#62
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Downplay murder, overstate assault. Such strong criticism.

    The murder was wrong and the person who did it belongs in prison. Now shut the hell up about that already
    NibeIungsnarf 15 hours ago#63
    Nobody is using the definition of a historical nazi when calling these people nazis. 

    Nobody are accusing them of being members of the National socialist worker's party in 1930s Germany.

    How are you not comprehending this?
    Kineth 15 hours ago#64
    On_The_Edge posted...
    Don't pretend like antifa are any better than neonazis. Both groups were present and both caused their trouble.


    Ok, I won't pretend. They're better than Neo Nazis. Neo Nazis are literally the equivalent of the s*** I step in that still lingers on the bottom of my shoe.
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Downplay murder, overstate assault. Such strong criticism.

    The murder was wrong and the person who did it belongs in prison. Now shut the hell up about that already

    Sure had to squeeze that one out of you despite you equivocating murder this entire topic.
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    Tezlok 15 hours ago#66
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Downplay murder, overstate assault. Such strong criticism.

    The murder was wrong and the person who did it belongs in prison. Now shut the hell up about that already

    Sure had to squeeze that one out of you despite you equivocating murder this entire topic.

    I shouldn't have had to say it. It's an obvious thing. But you wanted to assume things about me
    MakoReizei 15 hours ago#67
    Dampproof posted...
    One side is actively murdering american citizens and your President doesn't lift a finger to help America against Neo Nazi's

    GG Republicans truly American.

    Only one person has died and it was by one crazy guy.

    Antifa is still just as bad.
    Darmik 15 hours ago#68
    Why are people trying to go all 'two sides of the same coin' rubbish in this topic?

    There was a group of people who protested against a Nazi march. That's all. And yet people are constantly deflecting to stuff outside of this event like it was the exact same group.

    Since when is protesting Nazi marches an extreme leftist ideology?
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    itachi15243 15 hours ago#69
    Tezlok posted...
    Axiom posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    I have been called a Nazi before by antifa sympathizers. And of course those people didn't get modded

    You've been going out of your way to defend them killing someone for 2 days now. Gee, why do people keep on assuming you're a Nazi? We're gonna have to get Batman over here and figure out this one.







    I never defended them. All I said was they aren't Nazis. Because they aren't members of the historical Nazi party. Not my fault you like to leap to conclusions

    Shut the f*** up Zikten. You always use history to justify your insane logic and it never works



    I think you are still not getting what my point was. I don't like Nazis. My only beef is with the proper definition of Nazi. It has nothing to do with liking a political party that would have sent me to a gas chamber fo my disability. So no
    You shut up and maybe call down and stop getting so worked up by my definitions


    Seriously? Here's the f***ing definitions for Nazi:
    1
    a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

    2

    a : one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the German Nazis : fascist
    b : one who is likened to a German Nazi : a harshly domineering, dictatorial, or intolerant person
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    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted... 
    3rd_Best_Master posted... 
    Downplay murder, overstate assault. Such strong criticism.

    The murder was wrong and the person who did it belongs in prison. Now shut the hell up about that already

    Sure had to squeeze that one out of you despite you equivocating murder this entire topic.

    I shouldn't have had to say it. It's an obvious thing. But you wanted to assume things about me

    Says a lot that you've had to go out of your way to overstate assault in relation to murder though. Didn't have to do that yet you did, so don't go around whining about posting the obvious.
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    Tezlok 15 hours ago#71
    Nazis would have killed me if I was alive in the 30's or 40's or if they won the war and took over America. I am the last person to be a Nazi. Jews were not the only minority murdered by them
    MakoReizei posted...
    Dampproof posted...
    One side is actively murdering american citizens and your President doesn't lift a finger to help America against Neo Nazi's 

    GG Republicans truly American.

    Only one person has died and it was by one crazy guy.

    Antifa is still just as bad.

    See guys, it was only one person. It's just a little bit of murder, the real bad guys are the group that goes around calling people nazis.
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    Tezlok 15 hours ago#73
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    Tezlok posted... 
    3rd_Best_Master posted... 
    Downplay murder, overstate assault. Such strong criticism.

    The murder was wrong and the person who did it belongs in prison. Now shut the hell up about that already

    Sure had to squeeze that one out of you despite you equivocating murder this entire topic.

    I shouldn't have had to say it. It's an obvious thing. But you wanted to assume things about me

    Says a lot that you've had to go out of your way to overstate assault in relation to murder though. Didn't have to do that yet you did, so don't go around whining about posting the obvious.

    I don't even understand what the f*** your saying here. I'm done. This topic has turned into a "let's bully zikten" party. Sick of talking about this
    KarmaMuffin 15 hours ago#74
    Tezlok posted...
    Nazis would have killed me if I was alive in the 30's or 40's or if they won the war and took over America. I am the last person to be a Nazi. Jews were not the only minority murdered by them

    You're also in Alaska and the president you voted for would be happy to throw you to the wolves because your senator pissed him off
    Face it Zikten, you voted for a loser. Wake the f*** up.
    gunplagirl posted...
    Nazis: we want minorities dead or stripped of rights and kicked out of this country 
    Antifa: we will stop you and protect minorities from your schemes
    People like tc: well I can't see the difference

    Well now I can't. After all, only the left thinks violence and fear tactics are how you protest. Oh...that's exactly what happened at a alt-right rally. What ever shall the neo-nazi right's new agenda be? Surely not adopt victim complexes. That's a Leftist idea!
    Or they can suck the thing that I whipped out for Harambe's honor-NeonOctopus
    Axiom 15 hours ago#76
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    @MakoReizei posted...
    Dampproof posted...
    One side is actively murdering american citizens and your President doesn't lift a finger to help America against Neo Nazi's 

    GG Republicans truly American.

    Only one person has died and it was by one crazy guy.

    Antifa is still just as bad.

    See guys, it was only one person. It's just a little bit of murder, the real bad guys are the group that goes around calling people nazis.

    It wasn't even one person. 3 people are dead
    (edited 15 hours ago)reportquote
    dj4242 15 hours ago#77
    Kineth posted...
    On_The_Edge posted...
    Don't pretend like antifa are any better than neonazis. Both groups were present and both caused their trouble.


    Ok, I won't pretend. They're better than Neo Nazis. Neo Nazis are literally the equivalent of the s*** I step in that still lingers on the bottom of my shoe.


    Nope, antifa is just as bad
    #MAGA
    Got a Chris Paul mindstate, I'm never out of bounds
    NibeIungsnarf 15 hours ago#78
    Tezlok posted...
    Nazis would have killed me if I was alive in the 30's or 40's or if they won the war and took over America. I am the last person to be a Nazi. Jews were not the only minority murdered by them

    Have a f***ing ounce of empathy in your thick skull and stop posting the septic garbage you post and people wouldn't think this way about you. 

    You do know that Jewish Nazis were a thing, right? Nobody cares about your disability. It's your blatant lack of humanity that is bothersome.
    hockeybub89 15 hours ago#79
    dj4242 posted...
    Kineth posted...
    On_The_Edge posted...
    Don't pretend like antifa are any better than neonazis. Both groups were present and both caused their trouble.


    Ok, I won't pretend. They're better than Neo Nazis. Neo Nazis are literally the equivalent of the s*** I step in that still lingers on the bottom of my shoe.


    Nope, antifa is just as bad

    Will you point out right-wing extremists as bad the next time a Muslim commits terrorism because "many sides have bad people that commit violence?" What is that? No? Because that would be in poor taste regardless of how much truth may or may not be behind it? Hmm.... I wonder what is different here.
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    Kineth 15 hours ago#80
    dj4242 posted...
    Kineth posted...
    On_The_Edge posted...
    Don't pretend like antifa are any better than neonazis. Both groups were present and both caused their trouble.


    Ok, I won't pretend. They're better than Neo Nazis. Neo Nazis are literally the equivalent of the s*** I step in that still lingers on the bottom of my shoe.


    Nope, antifa is just as bad


    Antifa is clearly an astroturfed group. Neo Nazis are real people who actually believe the s*** they're spewing and oh-btw, Antifa doesn't have a message based on hate. They're f***ing different and I don't need this lazy ass "same thing both sides" bulls*** in any legitimate discussion.
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    hockeybub89 15 hours ago#81
    Darmik posted...
    Why are people trying to go all 'two sides of the same coin' rubbish in this topic?

    There was a group of people who protested against a Nazi march. That's all. And yet people are constantly deflecting to stuff outside of this event like it was the exact same group.

    Since when is protesting Nazi marches an extreme leftist ideology?

    Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio are well known left extremists.
    FrisbeeDude 15 hours ago#82
    "Yeah, Obama denounced Islamic terrorism, but why can't he say radical Islam?!" 

    "Trump doesn't need to need denounce KKK or nazi specifically. Calling out all sides is fine"
    No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE!
    The Admiral 15 hours ago#83
    FrisbeeDude posted...
    "Trump doesn't need to need denounce KKK or nazi specifically. Calling out all sides is fine"


    You mean denounce it more than the dozen times he's already done so before:

    - The Admiral
    Kineth 15 hours ago#84
    Good for him. He needs to do it again.
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    Tezlok 15 hours ago#85
    NibeIungsnarf posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    Nazis would have killed me if I was alive in the 30's or 40's or if they won the war and took over America. I am the last person to be a Nazi. Jews were not the only minority murdered by them

    Have a f***ing ounce of empathy in your thick skull and stop posting the septic garbage you post and people wouldn't think this way about you. 

    You do know that Jewish Nazis were a thing, right? Nobody cares about your disability. It's your blatant lack of humanity that is bothersome.

    How do I lack humanity? You are just assuming about me. You don't know what I am like in real life. You have no idea how many times I have cried cause someone died. Your just trying to make me into a monster so you can ignore my opinions
    It's the oldest tactic in history. Just cause I don't write an essay on every possible thing to explain how I feel about the entire universe doesn't give you the right to assume s*** about me
    FrisbeeDude 15 hours ago#86
    Kineth posted...
    Good for him. He needs to do it again.


    Especially when you're guilty of retweeting racists
    No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE!
    chill02 15 hours ago#87
    UnholyMudcrab posted...
    Remind me again which side actually killed someone yesterday
    Ave, true to Caesar.
    NibeIungsnarf 15 hours ago#88
    Tezlok posted...
    How do I lack humanity? You are just assuming about me.

    Because you're relentlessly trying to achieve an idiotic and absolutely wrong semantics victory based on a tragic murder and acting like you're of superior intellect in doing so because you're a "history buff"

    And because you want to constantly discuss assaults committed by an unrelated group with a group that falls within your political spectrum set up a hate rally professing Nazi-ideology that resulted in actual murder.

    I'm not trying to make you into a monster.

    Your behavior does that.
    Monday 15 hours ago#89
    Trump did all that was necessary. If you have a problem with that, send him a tweet crying about it. (watch this get modded despite the much more nasty s*** being said in this very topic.)
    ChromaticAngel 15 hours ago#90
    UnfairRepresent posted...
    The thing you're missing is that Antifa can't tell the difference between actual nazis and just some dude who has conservative opinions.

    Dudes who "just have conservative opinions" don't run protesters over
    hockeybub89 15 hours ago#91
    Monday posted...
    Trump did all that was necessary. If you have a problem with that, send him a tweet crying about it. (watch this get modded despite the much more nasty s*** being said in this very topic.)

    Yeah, man. Trump, his most devout followers, and white supremacists think he did enough or too much, so literally everyone else is a whiny baby. Maybe one day we will all realize that this brave minority speaks the truth.
    Monday 15 hours ago#92
    hockeybub89 posted...
    Monday posted...
    Trump did all that was necessary. If you have a problem with that, send him a tweet crying about it. (watch this get modded despite the much more nasty s*** being said in this very topic.)

    Yeah, man. Trump, his most devout followers, and white supremacists think he did enough or too much, so literally everyone else is a whiny baby. Maybe one day we will all realize that this brave minority speaks the truth.


    I've seen a lot of posts trying to give a reason as to why his statement wasn't enough, but not a single f***ing one has been anything more than "well he wouldn't do the same if it were Islam." 

    And that's not even worth responding to.
    CADE FOSTER 15 hours ago#93
    Kineth 15 hours ago#94
    Let's not forget the time that his administration tried to say that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons on his own people and basically tested the waters with Holocaust denial. This being shortly after saying that the civil war wasn't fought over slavery and that slaves were treated "pretty good".
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    hockeybub89 15 hours ago#95
    Monday posted...
    hockeybub89 posted...
    Monday posted...
    Trump did all that was necessary. If you have a problem with that, send him a tweet crying about it. (watch this get modded despite the much more nasty s*** being said in this very topic.)

    Yeah, man. Trump, his most devout followers, and white supremacists think he did enough or too much, so literally everyone else is a whiny baby. Maybe one day we will all realize that this brave minority speaks the truth.


    I've seen a lot of posts trying to give a reason as to why his statement wasn't enough, but not a single f***ing one has been anything more than "well he wouldn't do the same if it were Islam." 

    And that's not even worth responding to.

    It is just counter to Trump's personality. I should make a mean tweet or get on camera and talk s*** to Trump. He would definitely call me out if I did that. People expect the leader of their country to make firm condemnations immediately after tragedies, not wishy washy "Why can't we get along?
    We're all to blame." That is not that time or place. Why the sudden personality change by Trump?

    And again, if it is enough why does almost everyone of any walk of life besides Trump and cult think it isn't?
    (edited 15 hours ago)reportquote
    All I know is I sure as f*** wouldn't want to hang around antifa/BLM *or* neo-nazi/KKK, both sides would give me s***/attack me for bigoted reasons so as far as I'm concerned, it is in fact "same s*** both sides" as far as what they're going to fling at me.

    Bloody hell, this is like when people absurdly claim I can absolutely trust the alt-right or ctrl-left and should have totally voted for Trump or Clinton. I'm part of the lower class and have mutt-genetics, literally *none* of these groups have ever been on "my side" and I'm sure as f*** not getting duped into joining theirs.
    Les aristocrates a la lanterne!
    Les aristocrates on les pendra!
    Tezlok 13 hours ago#97
    NibeIungsnarf posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    How do I lack humanity? You are just assuming about me.

    Because you're relentlessly trying to achieve an idiotic and absolutely wrong semantics victory based on a tragic murder and acting like you're of superior intellect in doing so because you're a "history buff"

    And because you want to constantly discuss assaults committed by an unrelated group with a group that falls within your political spectrum set up a hate rally professing Nazi-ideology that resulted in actual murder.

    I'm not trying to make you into a monster.

    Your behavior does that.

    My political spectrum is not republican. See the topic I made that everyone who actually knows me ignored...I am not republican or conservative. My behavior is only that of a social awkward person
    I am not trying anything. Or rather I am but not what you think I am trying. I don't know why I keep talking to you. You are just trolling me
    Tezlok 13 hours ago#98
    And the murder is sad but it wasn't even on my mind during this fight of ours. I'm not trying to belittle it. It's just that it caused the word Nazi to pop up in the news again and that was what I was talking about. I barely know any details about the murder
    Once again, another assumption on your part
    EliteGuard99 12 hours ago#99
    Come back when antifa's ideology is responsible for the deaths of over 60 million people and the destruction of an entire continent's infrastructure.
    "Sessions is like what would happen if a really sheltered home school kid did the fusion dance with everyone's racist thanksgiving uncle" - D_Bart
    Kineth 12 hours ago#100
    Tezlok posted...
    NibeIungsnarf posted...
    Tezlok posted...
    How do I lack humanity? You are just assuming about me.

    Because you're relentlessly trying to achieve an idiotic and absolutely wrong semantics victory based on a tragic murder and acting like you're of superior intellect in doing so because you're a "history buff"

    And because you want to constantly discuss assaults committed by an unrelated group with a group that falls within your political spectrum set up a hate rally professing Nazi-ideology that resulted in actual murder.

    I'm not trying to make you into a monster.

    Your behavior does that.

    My political spectrum is not republican.


    No, just every single one of your political positions is.
    If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
    1. Boards
    2. Current Events
    3. Trump denounced "many sides" because antifa are just as bad
      1. Boards
      2. Current Events
      3. Trump denounced "many sides" because antifa are just as bad
      Tezlok 12 hours ago#101
      Kineth posted...
      Tezlok posted...
      NibeIungsnarf posted...
      Tezlok posted...
      How do I lack humanity? You are just assuming about me.

      Because you're relentlessly trying to achieve an idiotic and absolutely wrong semantics victory based on a tragic murder and acting like you're of superior intellect in doing so because you're a "history buff"

      And because you want to constantly discuss assaults committed by an unrelated group with a group that falls within your political spectrum set up a hate rally professing Nazi-ideology that resulted in actual murder.

      I'm not trying to make you into a monster.

      Your behavior does that.

      My political spectrum is not republican.


      No, just every single one of your political positions is.

      How do you know every single one of my political opinions? Why did I vote for Sanders in the first vote in the summer? f*** off with your assumptions. You know nothing about my life
      (edited 12 hours ago)reportquote
      Kineth 12 hours ago#102
      I know that you used to be a LOT cooler than you are now and I also know that you've taken up lying on the regular lately so f*** me? No, f*** you.
      If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
      Tezlok 12 hours ago#103
      Kineth posted...
      I know that you used to be a LOT cooler than you are now and I also know that you've taken up lying on the regular lately so f*** me? No, f*** you.

      I used to be cooler because that was before all the false rumors spread about me. I haven't changed at all. People just took advantage of my disability and ruined my reputation. If your that weak to peer pressure that you believed the lies than you are a bad person
      Kineth 12 hours ago#104
      Yes, you have changed. There's nothing about rumors that made me reach this conclusion. It was literally from me reading your posts that I reached that conclusion. Once again, you're a liar.
      If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
      Tezlok 12 hours ago#105
      Kineth posted...
      Yes, you have changed. There's nothing about rumors that made me reach this conclusion. It was literally from me reading your posts that I reached that conclusion. Once again, you're a liar.

      It's called a mental breakdown for the stress of having my only social outlet betray me
      Gojak_v3 12 hours ago#106
      Webmaster4531 posted...
      Many is a weasel word that can be interpreted to mean not the nazis.


      I love how liberals have worked it up in their delusional mind to think condemning the "many sides" somehow doesn't include the nazis.

      Like I said in another topic. You guys will cry about literally everything when it comes to Trump.
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      TomNook20 12 hours ago#107
      While it's true that antifa is just as bad as the jackasses that caused trouble on wednesday, they weren't the ones that just killed a person. If you're going to respond to an incident, call out those responsible for that incident.

      It's like someone talking about how bad neo nazi's are after a dips*** bernie bro shot scalise. Yes, they are bad, but they didn't just shoot someone.
      EliteGuard99 posted...
      Come back when antifa's ideology is responsible for the deaths of over 60 million people and the destruction of an entire continent's infrastructure.


      The most deaths antifa's ideology caused was somewhere around the french revolution. I'm not sure how many people died, but I'm willing to bet that less people died than in the American Civil War.
      1. Boards
      2. Current Events 
      3. Trump denounced "many sides" because antifa are just as bad

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