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"It's absolutely killing our shoppers and our shopping centers...if you look at what's going with shopping centers and stores and jobs and stores it's been very, very tough for them...they've had a very hard time, closing at numbers and records that have never been seen before. So we have to stop that, the online predatory practices."
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If he fucks with our import of dakimakuras, japanese-only games and pocky, it'll be the anime community starting the revolution instead of the rednecks.
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I'm sure he'd do the same thing to save the horse and buggy industry from the predatory sales of cars
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Trump said like 10 different words in that entire run on sentence lmao.
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Is his clothing line still made in China?
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Like ivankas shoes?
His clothes?
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Villain posted...
Is his clothing line still made in China? You beat me You forgot ivankas shoes and shit
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How is it predatory? They just sell stuff.
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It's a fact that traditional brick and mortar stores are going out of business. You can get most brand new games from Amazon cheaper than GameStop
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Villain posted...
Is his clothing line still made in China? No. The "Trump Private Selection" clothing line went defunct and lost most of its market value in 2015 when Macy's (who had an exclusive deal with Trump to sell some of his products, at the time) dropped his product lines. Last winter, I looked and only a few unrecognizable outlets were selling the Private Selection stuff, and it was on 70~80% clearance. The official Trump MAGA hats/mugs/etc. are made in the USA, but there are craptons of knockoffs and independent manufacturers who make their versions in China.
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I don't have a problem with this.
If you guys truly want to stimulate growth and the economy for workers we need to reign in companies like Amazon. I'm surprised you guys are against this seeing as this was a huge leftwing talking point 10-20 years ago when Wal-Mart was killing all the local economies. |
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darkace77450 posted...
"It's absolutely killing our shoppers and our shopping centers...if you look at what's going with shopping centers and stores and jobs and stores it's been very, very tough for them...they've had a very hard time, closing at numbers and records that have never been seen before. So we have to stop that, the online predatory practices."
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Shopping centers and stores and jobs and stores.
The food here is awful. My steak was so tough, halfway through my meal it got up and attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself.
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Trump: The internet is not a big truck. It's a series of tubes!
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Online predatory practices? How exactly is selling stuff for low prices "predatory" to anybody? Does Trump think Walmart is predatory too?
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omega bahumat posted...
I don't have a problem with this. Because it's a failing point to take. Online is the future and fighting it is stupid.
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MegatokyoEd posted...
omega bahumat posted...I don't have a problem with this. Being short sighted is stupid. Fighting against corporate monopolies and overreach is not. Raising taxes on it would deter it among many other tactics that the federal and local governments can use to prevent these corporations from forcing out competition by lowering rates until the local stores can't afford it. I feel like the Democratic party has forgotten that it used to stand for worker protectionism. This is an important tool in our arsenal and led to the greatest legislative majority we ever had and a long period of economic growth and opportunity in the United States. |
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omega bahumat posted...
I feel like the Democratic party has forgotten that it used to stand for worker protectionism. Translation: "fuck free market capitalism." |
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omega bahumat posted...
You realize small businesses can use Amazon to sell their products, right? It's called getting with the times.
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UBI is what liberals need to be aiming toward.
Trying to prop up local businesses will be as futile as coal mines in 10 years.
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Is this his excuse for wanting to get rid of net neutrality? Lol
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Sir_RaZZo posted...
omega bahumat posted... Then Amazon buys them out. It was done with wal-mart and numerous retailers before them. Learn your history guys. We need to be proactive -now- about reigning in these mega-conglomerates. Failing to do so will only haunt us later.darkace77450 posted... omega bahumat posted...I feel like the Democratic party has forgotten that it used to stand for worker protectionism. I've never claimed to be a fan of the free market. |
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MegatokyoEd posted...
UBI is what liberals need to be aiming toward. You can easily attain both. Especially since higher taxes on online goods will help pay for the UBI. |
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Amazon is also a store and jobs.
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He should focus on cracking down on predatory p**** grabbing.
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Bezos 2020
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omega bahumat posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...UBI is what liberals need to be aiming toward. Yeah, considering that UBI has the potential to provide the safety net people need to feel confident to start their own local business, and to shop more at local businesses, I really don't see how one has to be left behind to support the other.
The food here is awful. My steak was so tough, halfway through my meal it got up and attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself.
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
omega bahumat posted...MegatokyoEd posted...UBI is what liberals need to be aiming toward. That should be the end goal. But let's all focus on how terrible Trump is at speaking instead of addressing actual problems. |
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To be fair, we're mostly just laughing at how terrible Trump is at speaking. The serious focus is still on serious matters.
The food here is awful. My steak was so tough, halfway through my meal it got up and attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself.
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Yeah, because that won't raise the price of goods at all.
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axelfooley2k5 posted...
Like ivankas shoes? "Made in Bangladesh Week"
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so what do all of trump's supporters on 4chan who buy all their anime crap from Japan think about this?
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omega bahumat posted...
I don't have a problem with this. Because this is really to protect fucking walmart. So now he's going to forbid online sales? This sounds like something venezuela would go. Or fucking cuba, communist regimes. What happened to the "free market" and that unrestrained capitalism the right raves about so much? It's free market and we got to respect it when it comes to driving down wages, treating employees like shit, kicking passengers off their seats in UA flights, operating flights in planes OLDER THAN I AM or nickel and diming you for "economy basic minus" when we used to get a meal and soda for the same price, but the almighty free market decides we don't even get regular couch for that anymore. Oooohhh, but when it comes to protecting fucking walmart, let's become fucking cuba and ban online sales? You got to be shitting me. |
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MegatokyoEd posted...
omega bahumat posted...I don't have a problem with this. It pisses me off so much. At some point we used stream engines. Then we switched to fossil fuels. No dumbass listened to the steam people and say "ban gasoline! Let's only use steam engine forever!". We'd be a little backwater country if we only used steam and banned gasoline. Now this guy wants us to ban online sales unless we're buying chewing tobacco from his buddies at walmart? Yeah, imagine us being the only country insisting on having brick and mortar stores while even peru or whatever has online sales. Our economy would become a laughing stock! |
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omega bahumat posted...
I don't have a problem with this. Why do we have to reign in some big corps to help other big corps? Especially ones that refused to innovate. Sears/Kmart shouldn't be saved for example.
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Goldice posted...
omega bahumat posted...I don't have a problem with this. Yes. It's so tasteless how they want to save big corps from other big corps at the expense of the economy and the common people, but they never dared to reign those corps to help the little guy. |
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omega bahumat posted...
I'm surprised you guys are against this seeing as this was a huge leftwing talking point 10-20 years ago when Wal-Mart was killing all the local economies. Indeed. Many on the left are anti-Trump without realizing that he has some leftist beliefs.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
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I'm just imagining Trump coming up with this idea out of frustration after unsuccessful attempts by him, Pence, Sessions, and Perry to figure out how to place an online order.
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TheHonorableOne posted...
omega bahumat posted...I'm surprised you guys are against this seeing as this was a huge leftwing talking point 10-20 years ago when Wal-Mart was killing all the local economies. and many on the right are pro-trump without realizing he has some communist beliefs. What about a small business selling stuff in Amazon or Ebay, without having to have the money to rent a warehouse, a shop, and all that? That is the antithesis to the "mah bootstraps" narrative of the right. You must either be a nice little retail shop employee or be born into riches like don and don jr so you can spend a shitload of money setting up shop. You rightists got conned. You voted for a bernie in disguise. |
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Coastal_elite posted...
and many on the right are pro-trump without realizing he has some communist beliefs. Working-class voters voted for Trump because of his protectionist policies. He became popular with his base by being anti-NAFTA/TPP & anti-Paris. Trump voters are also made up of previous Clinton/Democrat voters. By being protectionist and anti-illegal immigration he won over a new voting block/brought out a new voting block. As usual, you have the issue backwards: nobody was conned because Trump's hardcore base want this. Not to mention the fact that raising minimum wages, ridiculous regulations, ridiculous premium increases due to lawsuits (california), etc. are the result of Democrat policies which push out small businesses and favor large corporations that can more easily spread the costs.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
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Goldice posted...
omega bahumat posted...I don't have a problem with this. Whoever said anything about saving Sears or Kmart? I'm worried about small and middle sized businesses that drive local economies. |
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
I'm just imagining Trump coming up with this idea out of frustration after unsuccessful attempts by him, Pence, Sessions, and Perry to figure out how to place an online order. Lmfao I almost did a spit take while reading this, well done. |
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TheHonorableOne posted...
Coastal_elite posted...and many on the right are pro-trump without realizing he has some communist beliefs. It's too bad he has it all warped and his anti-immigration stances is founded on ignorance and bigotry as opposed to reason and facts. Then there's his tax reform that doesn't help the working class. But hey - at least he pandered to you, right? |
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Coastal_elite posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...omega bahumat posted...I don't have a problem with this. Literally nobody said anything about banning line sales except you. Your failure to understand nuanced is normal behaviour though. |
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omega bahumat posted...
has it all warped and his anti-immigration stances is founded on ignorance and bigotry as opposed to reason and facts Stopping illegal immigration is based on an extremely simple fact - the fact that we have laws that prohibit illegal immigration. We have proper immigration channels. There is nothing bigoted about that because he wants to stop illegal immigration from all nations.
"So you never wanted a regular type life?"
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TheHonorableOne posted...
omega bahumat posted...has it all warped and his anti-immigration stances is founded on ignorance and bigotry as opposed to reason and facts Weird how he only seems to focus on the non-white ones. Must be a messaging/pr issue though, right? /s |
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Coastal_elite posted...and many on the right are pro-trump without realizing he has some communist beliefs. Walmart killed mum&pap shops nationwide by out-pricing them and pushing them out. Now mum&pap can sell stuff online... and now walmart AGAIN will make sure they can't do what they do. It's almost like your guys are rooting for specific companies, even if it damages those people whose "protectionist policies" are supposed to help |
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omega bahumat posted...
TheHonorableOne posted...Coastal_elite posted...and many on the right are pro-trump without realizing he has some communist beliefs. THO will defend him to his death because of his anti-islamic tendencies, and then the anti black/anti-hispanic makes him feel "one with the big guys" because he feels he can target them too. It's disgusting. |
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omega bahumat posted...
Weird how he only seems to focus on the non-white ones. He's not focusing on that: reality reflects that extremely obvious fact. http://www.pewhispanic.org/2009/04/14/a-portrait-of-unauthorized-immigrants-in-the-united-states/ About three-quarters (76%) of the nation’s unauthorized immigrant population are Hispanics. The majority of undocumented immigrants (59%) are from Mexico, numbering 7 million. Significant regional sources of unauthorized immigrants include Asia (11%), Central America (11%), South America (7%), the Caribbean (4%) and the Middle East (less than 2%). Most illegal immigrants aren't white.
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TheHonorableOne posted...omega bahumat posted...
Weird how he only seems to focus on the non-white ones.
He's not focusing on that: reality reflects that extremely obvious fact.
http://www.pewhispanic.org/2009/04/14/a-portrait-of-unauthorized-immigrants-in-the-united-states/About three-quarters (76%) of the nation’s unauthorized immigrant population are Hispanics. The majority of undocumented immigrants (59%) are from Mexico, numbering 7 million. Significant regional sources of unauthorized immigrants include Asia (11%), Central America (11%), South America (7%), the Caribbean (4%) and the Middle East (less than 2%).
Most illegal immigrants aren't white.
so now hispanics aren't white again? you people make me laugh.
But yeah even his little attempt at making "bad hombre" a slur tells you his "anti immigrant" thing is actually just anti hispanic. You never hear "bad desi" or "bad ren"SMEDIA posted...It's a fact that traditional brick and mortar stores are going out of business. You can get most brand new games from Amazon cheaper than GameStop
Best Buy adapted nicely.The only people that can say what matters to gaming are those that buy and play them.-Ollie Barder, Forbes ContributorGameStop is awful and should die, won't even shed a tear if they do, they are actually a detriment to game devs who make little money off of their used game business model that they leech off of. Their customer service and treatment of their employees is also objectively abysmal.
KMart and Sears are equally worthless and nothing of value will be lost if they go away. Walmart can die too. I can sell stuff on Amazon and other online places like EBay or even Craigslist, no matter what country its from, unlike with those shit chains, so I don't mind Amazon pushing them into obscurity, online competition against Amazon is more preferred anyway. Trump's puppeteers would honestly like to limit the internet in being able to easily do that though, it makes it too easy for peasants to make a living or receive things afterall.1. Trump has this bizarre fascination with believing he can revive dead industries.
2. I'm not sure he's capable of completing a sentence without using "very, very".PotD's resident Film Expert.He speaks worse English than the Indian dude at the convenience store.I'll have sex with Capitalism as long as we're stranded together on a desert island, but after we're rescued I'm not giving him my number.Hiro_Yasuhara posted...GameStop is awful and should die, won't even shed a tear if they do, they are actually a detriment to game devs who make little money off of their used game business model that they leech off of. Their customer service and treatment of their employees is also objectively abysmal.
KMart and Sears are equally worthless and nothing of value will be lost if they go away. Walmart can die too. I can sell stuff on Amazon and other online places like EBay or even Craigslist, no matter what country its from, unlike with those shit chains, so I don't mind Amazon pushing them into obscurity, online competition against Amazon is more preferred anyway. Trump's puppeteers would honestly like to limit the internet in being able to easily do that though, it makes it too easy for peasants to make a living or receive things afterall.
Could also break up Amazon forcefully to promote more competition.
But nah, let's give up and embrace the future!Hiro_Yasuhara posted...Trump's puppeteers would honestly like to limit the internet in being able to easily do that though, it makes it too easy for peasants to make a living or receive things afterall.
This makes me furious. It's exactly this.
They right is supposed to be all about personal accountability, deregulation, entrepreneurship, etc.
Yet they're the ones who usually try to regulate out of existence any way in which "peasants" can make a living without having to sell their lives to one of the mega transnationals that pull their strings, and this is exactly one of those examples.
Agent orange will try to add weird taxes and weird regulations to online sales in order to make it too expensive and difficult to use to compete with wal mart, sort of like cab companies tried to do with uber.
Free market my assomega bahumat posted...Hiro_Yasuhara posted...
GameStop is awful and should die, won't even shed a tear if they do, they are actually a detriment to game devs who make little money off of their used game business model that they leech off of. Their customer service and treatment of their employees is also objectively abysmal.
KMart and Sears are equally worthless and nothing of value will be lost if they go away. Walmart can die too. I can sell stuff on Amazon and other online places like EBay or even Craigslist, no matter what country its from, unlike with those shit chains, so I don't mind Amazon pushing them into obscurity, online competition against Amazon is more preferred anyway. Trump's puppeteers would honestly like to limit the internet in being able to easily do that though, it makes it too easy for peasants to make a living or receive things afterall.
Could also break up Amazon forcefully to promote more competition.
But nah, let's give up and embrace the future!
What about "muh free market"?
Why aren't bigger, meaner , worse entities like United airlines, American Airlines, Ford Motor Company, the top 3 banks or Marriott hotels not broken up? They have to go against the newer, disruptive online company that's bothering his friendsI doubt he'll be able to succeed with that one. He'll face a lot of opposition from people with a lot of money.
That aside, didn't think I'd see a Republican president openly advocating restricting the free market to boost the local economy. Of course, it's just blatant fear of the competition the online world provides to shopping malls. It's cheaper, it's more convenient and it even allows regular people to be part of big online marketplaces (Amazon, ebay).
Also, consumers love places like Amazon & ebay. Good luck going against the wishes of both consumers and major corporations. Last time anyone in the government proposed a ISP tax to fund local media production in Canada, it was nixed within the day by the Prime Minister because of how unpopular that is.*sigh* Lemme get my TI-83 ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16
All Hail BlAcK TuRtLe!EliteC posted...omega bahumat posted...
Hiro_Yasuhara posted...
GameStop is awful and should die, won't even shed a tear if they do, they are actually a detriment to game devs who make little money off of their used game business model that they leech off of. Their customer service and treatment of their employees is also objectively abysmal.
KMart and Sears are equally worthless and nothing of value will be lost if they go away. Walmart can die too. I can sell stuff on Amazon and other online places like EBay or even Craigslist, no matter what country its from, unlike with those shit chains, so I don't mind Amazon pushing them into obscurity, online competition against Amazon is more preferred anyway. Trump's puppeteers would honestly like to limit the internet in being able to easily do that though, it makes it too easy for peasants to make a living or receive things afterall.
Could also break up Amazon forcefully to promote more competition.
But nah, let's give up and embrace the future!
What about "muh free market"?
Why aren't bigger, meaner , worse entities like United airlines, American Airlines, Ford Motor Company, the top 3 banks or Marriott hotels not broken up? They have to go against the newer, disruptive online company that's bothering his friends
What makes you think I'm opposed to that?
I Don't understand where you guys have gotten the impression that I support Trump or a free market. I blame it on your inability to separate opposing ideas properly and only see dissenting opinions as the "enemy'.EvilNcr posted...That aside, didn't think I'd see a Republican president openly advocating restricting the free market to boost the local economy.
If it was to assist local small businesses, I'd be more supportive. But it's most likely to support dinosaur corps and places like Wal-mart that are "friends" at the expense of "an enemy" (Jeff Bezos).New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI ChampionsGoldice posted...EvilNcr posted...
That aside, didn't think I'd see a Republican president openly advocating restricting the free market to boost the local economy.
If it was to assist local small businesses, I'd be more supportive. But it's most likely to support dinosaur corps and places like Wal-mart that are "friends" at the expense of "an enemy" (Jeff Bezos).
about time somebody said it.
It's the same reason he's supporting coal and oil vs solar and renewableGoldice posted...EvilNcr posted...
That aside, didn't think I'd see a Republican president openly advocating restricting the free market to boost the local economy.
If it was to assist local small businesses, I'd be more supportive. But it's most likely to support dinosaur corps and places like Wal-mart that are "friends" at the expense of "an enemy" (Jeff Bezos).
And again, that's what I aim for.omega bahumat posted...Goldice posted...
EvilNcr posted...
That aside, didn't think I'd see a Republican president openly advocating restricting the free market to boost the local economy.
If it was to assist local small businesses, I'd be more supportive. But it's most likely to support dinosaur corps and places like Wal-mart that are "friends" at the expense of "an enemy" (Jeff Bezos).
And again, that's what I aim for.
How?
RIght now you could sign up on amazon or ebay and start selling your stuff. a 1 man enterprise!
Say that goes away. Now your choices are working for subpar wages for walmart or be already rich and set your own shop.
How does this help small biz?Coastal_elite posted...RIght now you could sign up on amazon or ebay and start selling your stuff. a 1 man enterprise!
I guess you just need to forget about all the other potential factors: minimum wage laws, taxes, insurance costs due to state litigation levels/laws, other government regulations, fees, permits, etc.
Democrats have hurt small businesses because they have driven up the costs of doing business - corporations like War Mart can absorb and spread out the costs. Small businesses can't. That's why businesses have fled California."So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"TheHonorableOne posted...Coastal_elite posted...
RIght now you could sign up on amazon or ebay and start selling your stuff. a 1 man enterprise!
I guess you just need to forget about all the other potential factors: minimum wage laws, taxes, insurance costs due to state litigation levels/laws, other government regulations, fees, permits, etc.
Democrats have hurt small businesses because they have driven up the costs of doing business - corporations like War Mart can absorb and spread out the costs. Small businesses can't. That's why businesses have fled California.
You're just trolling for the sake of trolling.
How does a 1-man enterprise of a guy selling his stuff on amazon suffer from minimum wage laws, insurance costs from selling his comics or whatever, etc?
This is just a talking point to deregulate stuff to line wal mart's pockets.Something something monopoly laws something something tax laws something something subsidies aimed at small businesses instead of corporations
There's a multitude of solutions. It's simply a matter of putting it in place.Coastal_elite posted...How does a 1-man enterprise of a guy selling his stuff on amazon suffer from minimum wage laws, insurance costs from selling his comics or whatever, etc?
I suppose its my fault for expecting you to think about the potential of expanding the business and hiring employees."So you never wanted a regular type life?"
"What the **** is that...barbeques and ball games?"TheHonorableOne posted...Coastal_elite posted...
How does a 1-man enterprise of a guy selling his stuff on amazon suffer from minimum wage laws, insurance costs from selling his comics or whatever, etc?
I suppose its my fault for expecting you to think about the potential of expanding the business and hiring employees.
your word of the day is strawman.
Let's worry about Joe selling his comics on becoming walmart once he becomes walmart.
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