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Bluebomber182 2 hours ago#1
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/344364-trump-encourages-cops-to-be-rough-with-suspects
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iamintents 2 hours ago#2
he literally can do nothing right
TheVipaGTS 2 hours ago#3
Trump is a dumbass.
s0nicfan 2 hours ago#4
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang.
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chill02 2 hours ago#5
Ave, true to Caesar.
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this
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iamintents 2 hours ago#8
X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this

yeah cuz cops will only do it to them not to any innocent suspects.........how can you trumpeters be this myopic?
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Bluebomber182 2 hours ago#11
ms13 are a buncha violent & evil s***heads but criminals still have rights. this is just f***ed up & theres no defending it
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TheVipaGTS 2 hours ago#12
s0nicfan posted...
Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang.

That doesn't make this ok. If the situation is under control they shouldn't be roughing anyone up. That excuse just gives them another dumb defense. "I thought he was in a gang! The president told me to do it"...
s0nicfan 2 hours ago#13
iamintents posted...

yeah cuz cops will only do it to them not to any innocent suspects.........how can you trumpeters be this myopic?


Context matters. There's a significant difference between:
"Trump tells cops at speech outlining strategies to deal with child trafficking gang to not worry about their head bumping on the frame of the cruiser" 
and 
"Trump tells cops to stop being nice & rough up people they arrest"
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Trump is losing so much that he's saying dumb s*** just so his dumbass cultists to cheer him.
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Bluebomber182 posted...
ms13 are a buncha violent & evil s***heads but criminals still have rights. this is just f***ed up & theres no defending it

I really don't see why anyone would care about a gang known for child prostitution getting a little boo-boo from bumping their head on the way into the car.
ledbowman 2 hours ago#16
Innocent until
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BillyKidd 2 hours ago#17
s0nicfan posted...
iamintents posted...

yeah cuz cops will only do it to them not to any innocent suspects.........how can you trumpeters be this myopic?


Context matters. There's a significant difference between:
"Trump tells cops at speech outlining strategies to deal with child trafficking gang to not worry about their head bumping on the frame of the cruiser" 
and 
"Trump tells cops to stop being nice & rough up people they arrest"


if they can't cut up people's statements to prove an argument, they have nothing.
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Bluebomber182 2 hours ago#18
theres an 80 character limit on topic titles dude. idgaf if theyre ms13 or not. this just throws fuel on an already tense situation with cops & suspects in the country
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Vertania 2 hours ago#19
s0nicfan posted...
Context matters. There's a significant difference between:
"Trump tells cops at speech outlining strategies to deal with child trafficking gang to not worry about their head bumping on the frame of the cruiser" 
and 
"Trump tells cops to stop being nice & rough up people they arrest"

this
tremain07 2 hours ago#20
I'm more disgusted that the police in the background are cheering and clapping to this. What the f***, just because the president tells you to be a thug doesn't mean you should be all too willing to do so. At this rate, Trump is going to turn the police into just another gang with a color.
I got nothing
I care if they're a gang known for child prostitution.
It just means they get less pity.
This isn't "hey, my village got taken over by hostiles and I have to join their ever growing army or else my family gets killed". This is actively joining a f***ing gang known for being some of the worst people on the planet. You wouldn't willingly join the KKK or the Arayan Brotherhood or a 1% gang.
Don't expect to be treated like a civilian when you join a group that actively goes against civilization
Bluebomber182 2 hours ago#22
so lets say i am a cop and i arrest you thinking youre in a gang but you arent. would you be ok with me slamming your head into the door?
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It takes a real idiot to argue that this is fine because he's only saying do it to gang members, as if police never get the wrong person.
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s0nicfan 2 hours ago#24
tremain07 posted...
I'm more disgusted that the police in the background are cheering and clapping to this. What the f***, just because the president tells you to be a thug doesn't mean you should be all too willing to do so. At this rate, Trump is going to turn the police into just another gang with a color.


I know cops. They're cheering not because he's giving them free reign to rough people up, but because they have a president that isn't out to make them the bad guys anymore. You gotta realize that law enforcement has gotten significantly more difficult in the last decade because EVERY action now comes with the threat of being publicly shamed, unceremoniously fired, or worse. The number of reports of claims like racism have skyrocketed. The default response to being approached by a cop in some places is now "I'm just going to report you for racism and see if I can get you fired."
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The Deadpool 2 hours ago#26
Vertania posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Context matters. There's a significant difference between:
"Trump tells cops at speech outlining strategies to deal with child trafficking gang to not worry about their head bumping on the frame of the cruiser" 
and 
"Trump tells cops to stop being nice & rough up people they arrest"

this


Really doesn't.

It is okay for you and I to wish horrible things to happen to horrible people.

It is not okay for the GOVERNMENT to do. Ever. No matter how awful they are. We have a due process for a reason.
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NibeIungsnarf 2 hours ago#27
s0nicfan posted...
iamintents posted...

yeah cuz cops will only do it to them not to any innocent suspects.........how can you trumpeters be this myopic?


Context matters. There's a significant difference between:
"Trump tells cops at speech outlining strategies to deal with child trafficking gang to not worry about their head bumping on the frame of the cruiser" 
and 
"Trump tells cops to stop being nice & rough up people they arrest"

There literally isn't any difference at all.
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Bluebomber182 2 hours ago#28
yeah i forgot the cops that shot philando castile & charles kinsey were the real victims
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Vertania 2 hours ago#29
BillyKidd posted...
if they can't cut up people's statements to prove an argument, they have nothing.

The Boy Scouts speech was the same thing. The picked out and replayed the stupid parts (election talk, irrelevant side story) and just ignored his positive messages to the kids.
Bluebomber182 posted...
so lets say i am a cop and i arrest you thinking youre in a gang but you arent. would you be ok with me slamming your head into the door?

You know it's kinda easy to spot ms 13 members right?
BillyKidd 2 hours ago#31
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Vertania posted...
BillyKidd posted...
if they can't cut up people's statements to prove an argument, they have nothing.

The Boy Scouts speech was the same thing. The picked out and replayed the stupid parts (election talk, irrelevant side story) and just ignored his positive messages to the kids.

Why were there any stupid parts of a speech to Boy Scouts?
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Bluebomber182 2 hours ago#33
how so? other people besides gang members have tats on their face
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BillyKidd posted...
@NibeIungsnarf
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Is it okay to punch a nazi?

Don't tag me in your bulls***. It's not ok for a cop to punch a Nazi.
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BillyKidd 2 hours ago#35
i meant in general. doesn't have to be a cop
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Look, at the end of the day I get what most of the non-educated people are worried about: it means a cop can go up to any Latino man and just go "he's in MS-13, let's blow his brains out". And of course, that's your opinion you can share.
But traditionally they don't that. Why? Because randomly shooting people isn't intelligent.
Neither do they decide to just randomly kill actual gang members for the lulz.
Because that would be counter productive. Trying to get a snitch > shooting someone in the face.

But again, I'm basing this off of my own research and not what most of the people in this topic think: that cops now have permission (and are encouraged) to randomly shoot Latino people because they might be in a gang.
Vertania 2 hours ago#37
The Deadpool posted...
It is okay for you and I to wish horrible things to happen to horrible people.

It is not okay for the GOVERNMENT to do. Ever. No matter how awful they are. We have a due process for a reason.

I don't disagree there.

But there's still a huge difference between the context of what he said and how it's being portrayed ITT and in the article.
Vertania posted...

But there's still a huge difference between the context of what he said and how it's being portrayed ITT and in the article.

There literally isn't any difference at all.
Bluebomber182 1 hour ago#39
when you lose an argument start jumping to ad homs. criminals have rights and weve got due process for a f***ing reason
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Vertania 1 hour ago#40
shockthemonkey posted...
Why were there any stupid parts of a speech to Boy Scouts?

Because it's Trump. He can't give a speech without saying something stupid. That shouldn't just cancel out the well-meaning parts.
Vertania posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Why were there any stupid parts of a speech to Boy Scouts?

Because it's Trump. He can't give a speech without saying something stupid. That shouldn't just cancel out the well-meaning parts.

Saying cops should assume guilt and "be rough to" certain accused people should cancel out anything else he said.

Literally forever.
s0nicfan 1 hour ago#42
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vertania posted...

But there's still a huge difference between the context of what he said and how it's being portrayed ITT and in the article.

There literally isn't any difference at all.


So you're saying "cops can rough up people they arrest" is literally the same as, and these are his exact words: "Please don't be too nice"

Oh, and don't forget his follow-up:
"Like, don't hit their head and they've just killed somebody. Don't hit their head? I said, 'You can take the hand away, OK?'
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Vertania 1 hour ago#43
NibeIungsnarf posted...
There literally isn't any difference at all.

"Rough up these child trafficking gang members"
vs.
"Rough up literally any criminal you encounter"
Vertania posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Why were there any stupid parts of a speech to Boy Scouts?

Because it's Trump. He can't give a speech without saying something stupid. That shouldn't just cancel out the well-meaning parts.

He's the president and you're saying we should treat him like a little brother with a mental problem. That's ridiculous.
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Vertania posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
There literally isn't any difference at all.

"Rough up these child trafficking gang members"
vs.
"Rough up literally any criminal you encounter"


No difference at all, nope. Police brutality, or "police not being too niceness" is the same no matter who the target is.
s0nicfan 1 hour ago#46
NibeIungsnarf posted...
Vertania posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
There literally isn't any difference at all.

"Rough up these child trafficking gang members"
vs.
"Rough up literally any criminal you encounter"


No difference at all, nope. Police brutality, or "police not being too niceness" is the same no matter who the target is.


You must be trolling if you're legit equating police brutality with "don't stress if they bump their head getting into the squad car"
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If a police officer purposefully chooses to take precautions with some suspects to ensure their safety but chooses not to take the same officer with another suspect for reasons related to them thinking ill of them rather than reasons related to their own safety, then that is obviously police brutality, yes. 

Also I'm fairly sure if a "child trafficking gangmember" ever got an injury to the forehead because the police didn't take this precaution, they would be able to sue the f*** out of that, so you'r'e basically arguing for enriching child traffickers with tax money for the sake making them slightly more likely to sustain probably minor head injuries during arrest.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
If a police officer purposefully chooses to take precautions with some suspects to ensure their safety but chooses not to take the same officer with another suspect for reasons related to them thinking ill of them rather than reasons related to their own safety, then that is obviously police brutality, yes. 

Also I'm fairly sure if a "child trafficking gangmember" ever got an injury to the forehead because the police didn't take this precaution, they would be able to sue the f*** out of that, so you'r'e basically arguing for enriching child traffickers with tax money for the sake making them slightly more likely to sustain probably minor head injuries during arrest.

Stop using logic! This is a rhetorical debate about how cool cops should be able to rough up dickbags.
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    XXHornDogXX 1 hour ago#51
    TC is an MS13 and criminal supporter
    --kresnik-- 1 hour ago#52
    Ms13 are not just random citizens getting beaten for smarting off. These guys kill people in some of the most terrifying ways imaginable. They are turf-based and have expanded too far. Not to mention, they are responsible for drug traffic.
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    s0nicfan posted...
    iamintents posted...

    yeah cuz cops will only do it to them not to any innocent suspects.........how can you trumpeters be this myopic?


    Context matters. There's a significant difference between:
    "Trump tells cops at speech outlining strategies to deal with child trafficking gang to not worry about their head bumping on the frame of the cruiser" 
    and 
    "Trump tells cops to stop being nice & rough up people they arrest"


    I agree with this
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    I honestly could understand some of the viewpoints if they were happy to admit they didn't do much research into ms-13 but the fact they seem to ignore what ms-13 is, the fact that rape is encouraged as punishment, torture is common and so on, makes me think they're simply raging against cops in general. 
    Which is insanely ignorant.
    metralo 1 hour ago#55
    s0nicfan posted...

    You must be trolling if you're legit equating police brutality with "don't stress if they bump their head getting into the squad car"


    if you can't see the message behind that sentence you're incredibly dense
    Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the f*** out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.
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    BillyKidd posted...
    Is it okay to punch a nazi?


    It is not okay for the President to punch a Nazi.

    An individual is not a government.
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    Forever_Black posted...
    Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the f*** out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

    Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of s***bags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the f***ing point.
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    Bluebomber182 1 hour ago#59
    im not even a liberal so try again. again ms13 are evil pieces of s*** but a lines gotta be drawn somewhere. lock these f***ers up & throw the key away but i dont stand for them getting roughed up since itll have a dangerous snowball effect
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    Axiom 1 hour ago#60
    If gunning down random innocent people is being nice then I'd really hate to see it when they aren't
    HylianFox 1 hour ago#61
    Because more violent rhetoric is what we need right now

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    It's MS-13. These are not your average criminals. Do you think they'd afford cops the same kind of politeness you so desperately want the cops to afford them?
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    EverDownward posted...
    It's MS-13. These are not your average criminals. Do you think they'd afford cops the same kind of politeness you so desperately want the cops to afford them?

    ...politeness?
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    EverDownward posted...
    It's MS-13. These are not your average criminals. Do you think they'd afford cops the same kind of politeness you so desperately want the cops to afford them?

    ...politeness?

    Did I stutter?
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    Forever_Black 51 minutes ago#67
    shockthemonkey posted...
    Forever_Black posted...
    Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the f*** out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

    Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of s***bags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the f***ing point.


    Blah blah blah those guys are pieces of s*** and if they give the cops a hard time, they definitely deserve it. Is it PC? No but I don't give af about s***heads. And this is talking about being a little rough and a head bang, not shooting or Rodney King a mf.
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    3rd_Best_Master 48 minutes ago#68
    Forever_Black posted...
    shockthemonkey posted...
    Forever_Black posted...
    Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the f*** out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

    Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of s***bags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the f***ing point.


    Blah blah blah those guys are pieces of s*** and if they give the cops a hard time, they definitely deserve it. Is it PC? No but I don't give af about s***heads. And this is talking about being a little rough and a head bang, not shooting or Rodney King a mf.

    You'll give a s*** when each and every one of them receives millions in settlement money that they'll receive due to unnecessarily rough treatment at the hands of the police, all paid for with your tax dollars.
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    shockthemonkey 47 minutes ago#69
    EverDownward posted...
    shockthemonkey posted...
    EverDownward posted...
    It's MS-13. These are not your average criminals. Do you think they'd afford cops the same kind of politeness you so desperately want the cops to afford them?

    ...politeness?

    Did I stutter?

    No you just said something stupid so I was giving you a chance to pretend you meant something else. The f*** kind of politeness do you think peolle tend to get while being arrested?

    Forever_Black posted...
    shockthemonkey posted...
    Forever_Black posted...
    Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the f*** out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

    Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of s***bags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the f***ing point.


    Blah blah blah those guys are pieces of s*** and if they give the cops a hard time, they definitely deserve it. Is it PC? No but I don't give af about s***heads. And this is talking about being a little rough and a head bang, not shooting or Rodney King a mf.

    No one is saying these guys don't deserve to get their s*** wrecked, but we got a system in place so that they can get their s*** wrecked fairly and impartially and after it's proven that the right person is getting it. None of this bulls*** tough guy act helps anyone and just leads to settlements. You think gangs deserve more money in exchange for cops being able to slam a few skulls into the door frame? No, of course you don't, no one is dumb enough to want that. So quit advocating for it.
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    X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 47 minutes ago#70
    shockthemonkey posted...
    but we got a

    You're Canadian.
    Trump doesn't have (AFAIK) the rights to decide how Canadian police can act.
    Spooking 46 minutes ago#71
    Robocop also broke the law, but people defended him.

    Also, look at NYC now. Do you think it's a great city? If so, thank cops from the 60's and 70's (and possibly 80's) who cracked heads. NYC was a hellhole back in the day before cops broke some rules to get that city into the shape it is in today.
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    3rd_Best_Master 44 minutes ago#72
    Spooking posted...
    Robocop also broke the law, but people defended him.

    Also, look at NYC now. Do you think it's a great city? If so, thank cops from the 60's and 70's (and possibly 80's) who cracked heads. NYC was a hellhole back in the day before cops broke some rules to get that city into the shape it is in today.

    The reduction in crime coincides with a national trend that saw a decrease in crime all over the nation, and not just in cities that lost millions in settlement money due to overzealous policing.
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    Freddie_Mercury 43 minutes ago#73
    why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"
    shockthemonkey 42 minutes ago#74
    Freddie_Mercury posted...
    why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"

    Because some people are idiots.
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    butthole666 41 minutes ago#75
    Trump is literally mirroring the behavior of the nazi party now lol
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    s0nicfan 40 minutes ago#76
    Freddie_Mercury posted...
    why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"


    Why are people interpreting "you don't have to go out of your way to keep from bruising a known murderer" as "let cops do whatever they want"
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    Vertania 40 minutes ago#77
    Freddie_Mercury posted...
    why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"

    Where are you getting this from?
    3rd_Best_Master 39 minutes ago#78
    Vertania posted...
    Freddie_Mercury posted...
    why are people interpreting "don't beat detained suspects" as "let criminals do whatever they want"

    Where are you getting this from?

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    SGT_Conti 39 minutes ago#79
    X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
    Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
    Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
    That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this

    What if they do it to someone who actually wasn't guilty of what they thought? Or if an injury from it prevented them from testifying? There are multiple reasons, humanitarian and practical, that I find it completely baffling anyone would support police brutality in any fashion. 

    The moment when you selectively protect rights is when they stop being rights at all. There's no half-measures where you can arbitrarily ignore proper procedure because you might as well throw out the procedure entirely.
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    Vertania 37 minutes ago#80
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
    https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75614690

    So... who, specifically, has said that?
    GuyCarlPeterson 34 minutes ago#81
    s0nicfan posted...
    Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang.

    Those poor murdering gangbangers!
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    shockthemonkey 33 minutes ago#82
    SGT_Conti posted...
    X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
    Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
    Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
    That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this

    What if they do it to someone who actually wasn't guilty of what they thought? Or if an injury from it prevented them from testifying? There are multiple reasons, humanitarian and practical, that I find it completely baffling anyone would support police brutality in any fashion. 

    The moment when you selectively protect rights is when they stop being rights at all. There's no half-measures where you can arbitrarily ignore proper procedure because you might as well throw out the procedure entirely.

    Yeah but who needs logic when you can have senseless rhetoric?
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    X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 32 minutes ago#83
    SGT_Conti posted...
    X777WgpUYZ5Hv23 posted...
    Trump was giving a speech detailing the administration's plan to defeat the MS-13 gang
    Oh, the gang that engages in child prostitution?
    That one? Yeah, I'm not gonna lose sleep over this

    What if they do it to someone who actually wasn't guilty of what they thought? Or if an injury from it prevented them from testifying? There are multiple reasons, humanitarian and practical, that I find it completely baffling anyone would support police brutality in any fashion. 

    The moment when you selectively protect rights is when they stop being rights at all. There's no half-measures where you can arbitrarily ignore proper procedure because you might as well throw out the procedure entirely.

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    Vertania 30 minutes ago#84
    shockthemonkey posted...
    Yeah but who needs logic when you can have senseless rhetoric?

    You mean like "Trump tells police to rough up anybody they arrest?"
    Forever_Black 29 minutes ago#85
    3rd_Best_Master posted...
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    Forever_Black posted...
    Lmao trump used this example of a person that murdered someone and you fools are flipping this the f*** out and making it about full blown police brutality. This is why I hate liberals. And I hate conservatives too but the Liberals make it hard for me to join their fight.

    Yeah that's the thing about civilized countries - gotta act civilized even in the face of s***bags. That's not negotiable. You don't give a scumbag an excuse to sue. You do everything right and by the book and let him be properly punished by the system. That's the f***ing point.


    Blah blah blah those guys are pieces of s*** and if they give the cops a hard time, they definitely deserve it. Is it PC? No but I don't give af about s***heads. And this is talking about being a little rough and a head bang, not shooting or Rodney King a mf.

    You'll give a s*** when each and every one of them receives millions in settlement money that they'll receive due to unnecessarily rough treatment at the hands of the police, all paid for with your tax dollars.


    True but being rough doesn't equate to beating the f*** out of them. I don't agree on beating a handcuffed criminal piece of s***. Just allowing his head to bump onto the top of the car when you show have been protecting it isn't a lawsuit waiting to happen
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