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AlternativeFAQS 15 hours ago#1
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AlternativeFAQS 15 hours ago#2
HylianFox 15 hours ago#3
Travel-wise, Trump has cost taxpayers more in 6 months than the Obamas did in 8 years
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hockeybub89 15 hours ago#4
MC_BatCommander 15 hours ago#5
Trump has already exceeded Obama's eight years in travel costs.
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metralo 15 hours ago#6
HylianFox posted...
Travel-wise, Trump has cost taxpayers more in 6 months than the Obamas did in 8 years


unfortunately, point this out to conservatives and they just call it fake news :/
Capn Circus 15 hours ago#7
metralo posted...
HylianFox posted...
Travel-wise, Trump has cost taxpayers more in 6 months than the Obamas did in 8 years


unfortunately, point this out to conservatives and they just call it fake news :/


Link?
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Capn Circus 15 hours ago#8
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't
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hockeybub89 15 hours ago#9
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

All hail King Trump
Villain 15 hours ago#10
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

Cause it's about"cutting costs" right?
Zeeak4444 15 hours ago#11
Villain posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

Cause it's about"cutting costs" right?


Ya what the f*** man. People like Capn are trash.
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pinky0926 15 hours ago#12
hockeybub89 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

All hail King Trump


You did not add an exclamation mark to the end of that sentence, are you really a true American?
Capn Circus 15 hours ago#13
Villain posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

Cause it's about"cutting costs" right?


Trump's already doing plenty of that. 

No one truly cares about his travel expenses, sorry to let you all down about that. You should have already known though, because you don't care about it yourselves, either.
"I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks
E32005 15 hours ago#14
HylianFox posted...
Travel-wise, Trump has cost taxpayers more in 6 months than the Obamas did in 8 years

what a joke.

what happened to fiscal responsibility cuckservatives?
Villain 15 hours ago#15
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.
hockeybub89 15 hours ago#16
pinky0926 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

All hail King Trump


You did not add an exclamation mark to the end of that sentence, are you really a true American?

Damn it you're right
pinky0926 15 hours ago#17
Capn Circus posted...
Villain posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

Cause it's about"cutting costs" right?


Trump's already doing plenty of that. 

No one truly cares about his travel expenses, sorry to let you all down about that. You should have already known though, because you don't care about it yourselves, either.


This is what fanboyism looks like in its truly ugliest form
lukabrosci 15 hours ago#18
Leave Barron alone you monsters!
tremain07 14 hours ago#19
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.

He's just being a smart businessman, what special interests? Quit being a liberal snowflake,ect.
I got nothing
metralo 14 hours ago#20
Capn Circus posted...
No one truly cares about his travel expenses, sorry to let you all down about that.


yeah thats why people s*** on Obama relentlessly every day for traveling and golfing.
Zeeak4444 14 hours ago#21
pinky0926 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Villain posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

Cause it's about"cutting costs" right?


Trump's already doing plenty of that. 

No one truly cares about his travel expenses, sorry to let you all down about that. You should have already known though, because you don't care about it yourselves, either.


This is what fanboyism looks like in its truly ugliest form


Qft
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Darmik 14 hours ago#22
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


Remember when a president closed down his peanut farm so there was no conflict of interest? Good times.
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Capn Circus 14 hours ago#23
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.
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Zeeak4444 14 hours ago#24
Capn Circus posted...
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.


Which is laughable in the scope of things.

He waived a whole 250k watch out dudes a humanitarian.
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Capn Circus 14 hours ago#25
Zeeak4444 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.


Which is laughable in the scope of things.

He waived a whole 250k watch out dudes a humanitarian.


It's 400k per year. It's definitely eating into his supposed profit he's getting from secret service spending the night in one of his hotels.
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pinky0926 14 hours ago#26
Capn Circus posted...
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.


What a complete joke. Why don't you look at the numbers for like 30 seconds and appreciate how small a contribution his quarterly salary would be to his wealth. 

I'll break it down for you. Have you ever decided not to bend over and pick up a quarter, because it was on the other side of the pavement and not really worth the 10 seconds of your time to get your hands covered in dirt? This is what it's like when a multi-billionaire decides to turn down a couple hundred grand.

Regardless, none of this has anything to do with the complete conflict of interest of a public servant using your tax payer dollars to fund his private business, no matter how small the contribution may be.
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myztikrice 13 hours ago#27
pinky0926 posted...
multi-billionaire

LUL
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hockeybub89 13 hours ago#28
Capn Circus 13 hours ago#29
pinky0926 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.


What a complete joke. Why don't you look at the numbers for like 30 seconds and appreciate how small a contribution his quarterly salary would be to his wealth. 

I'll break it down for you. Have you ever decided not to bend over and pick up a quarter, because it was on the other side of the pavement and not really worth the 10 seconds of your time to get your hands covered in dirt? This is what it's like when a multi-billionaire decides to turn down a couple hundred grand.

Regardless, none of this has anything to do with the complete conflict of interest of a public servant using your tax payer dollars to fund his private business, no matter how small the contribution may be.


If that is occurring, which there doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence--- it's probably saving tax payer dollars due to logistics. 

And you're right---the amount is very small---meaningless to him (both the donations and the alleged profit he's making). 

What is meaningful are the stocks that he sold in order to prevent him from owning shares in businesses where laws could affect profit. He's giving up millions and millions in profit. And it's not even required for him to do so. 

Either way, no one can call him some scheming presidential profiteer. He's losing money by being the President.
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BillyKidd 13 hours ago#30
hockeybub89 posted...
$84 million in Viagra

lol


Viagra $0.27 a pill
blood thinner over $1.00 a pill

both doing same thing. lol
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Neoconkers 13 hours ago#31
BillyKidd posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
$84 million in Viagra

lol


Viagra $0.27 a pill
blood thinner over $1.00 a pill

both doing same thing. lol

except the majority of it goes to vets who claim their service dillied their dangles
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Deadpool_18 13 hours ago#32
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't


Stupid thought processes like this one are what got him into the presidency.
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
BillyKidd 13 hours ago#33
Neoconkers posted...
BillyKidd posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
$84 million in Viagra

lol


Viagra $0.27 a pill
blood thinner over $1.00 a pill

both doing same thing. lol

except the majority of it goes to vets who claim their service dillied their dangles


citation.
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Capn Circus 13 hours ago#34
Deadpool_18 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't


Stupid thought processes like this one are what got him into the presidency.


What's stupid about it? The most powerful leader in the world being protected while traveling, which happens to be quite expensive, is much more righteous than someone receiving unnecessary surgery and hormone therapy.
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iPhone_7 13 hours ago#35
Deadpool_18 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't


Stupid thought processes like this one are what got him into the presidency.

He's a known trumpanzee, what do you expect.
The Admiral 13 hours ago#36
So the argument is that "just because one area of government is bloated and costs too much, that justifies adding additional expenses to government that are bloated and cost way too much."

Doesn't sound like a very convincing one.
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Turbam 13 hours ago#37
HylianFox posted...
Travel-wise, Trump has cost taxpayers more in 6 months than the Obamas did in 8 years

MC_BatCommander posted...
Trump has already exceeded Obama's eight years in travel costs.

I'm going to have to ask you to delete this.
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Deadpool_18 13 hours ago#38
Turbam posted...
HylianFox posted...
Travel-wise, Trump has cost taxpayers more in 6 months than the Obamas did in 8 years

MC_BatCommander posted...
Trump has already exceeded Obama's eight years in travel costs.

I'm going to have to ask you to delete this.


Do facts offend your sensibilities?
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
ledbowman 13 hours ago#39
Darmik posted...
Villain posted...
I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


Remember when a president closed down his peanut farm so there was no conflict of interest? Good times.

And turned down the thermostat at the WH. And turn off a lot of the lights.
I wish we all waved
Capn Circus 13 hours ago#40
I mean, it's a ridiculous thing to even be thinking about in the first place. Of course it's true Trump's travel costs more than trans expenses.
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ledbowman 13 hours ago#41
Capn Circus posted...
I mean, it's a ridiculous thing to even be thinking about in the first place. Of course it's true Trump's travel costs more than trans expenses.

"travel" =/= "vacations"
I wish we all waved
pinky0926 13 hours ago#42
Capn Circus posted...
If that is occurring, which there doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence--- it's probably saving tax payer dollars due to logistics.

And you're right---the amount is very small---meaningless to him (both the donations and the alleged profit he's making). 


Ignoring the obvious cronyism that will come about when the president owns the same business resort he conducts state business in, you're conflating different things here. The president turning down the salary is a gracious but technically unnecessary thing. The president collecting dollars is an unethical and absolutely wrong thing. The amount doesn't actually matter. It's the principle (or lack thereof) that is being shown. 

What is meaningful are the stocks that he sold in order to prevent him from owning shares in businesses where laws could affect profit. He's giving up millions and millions in profit. And it's not even required for him to do so. 

Either way, no one can call him some scheming presidential profiteer. He's losing money by being the President.


Everyone can call him a scheming profiteer. When you have billions of dollars, losing a few millions is absolute chickens***, especially when you can affect legislation that will give you and your buddies long term tax breaks and industry deregulation.

Like, you know that there's a thousand million in a billion, right? Just checking.
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pinky0926 13 hours ago#43
The Admiral posted...
So the argument is that "just because one area of government is bloated and costs too much, that justifies adding additional expenses to government that are bloated and cost way too much."

Doesn't sound like a very convincing one.


I'd say the argument is more "President Trump painted the trans issue as an unforturnate but necessary streamlining of government budget, as if the overarching goal here is to gut unnecessary government spending even if they might be a good thing for some people. That sentiment loses its legitimacy when the president spends several times that budget alone on superfluous trips to his holiday resort."

It's a bit like when the director of the company has to make a few team members redundant on Friday, and then comes into the office on Monday and shows everyone the new Ferrari he bought. No one is going to be happy about that, even if the books are balanced.
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Deadpool_18 13 hours ago#44
The government shouldn't pay for trans surgeries, anyway.
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
Capn Circus 13 hours ago#45
pinky0926 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
If that is occurring, which there doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence--- it's probably saving tax payer dollars due to logistics.

And you're right---the amount is very small---meaningless to him (both the donations and the alleged profit he's making). 


Ignoring the obvious cronyism that will come about when the president owns the same business resort he conducts state business in, you're conflating different things here. The president turning down the salary is a gracious but technically unnecessary thing. The president collecting dollars is an unethical and absolutely wrong thing. The amount doesn't actually matter. It's the principle (or lack thereof) that is being shown. 

What is meaningful are the stocks that he sold in order to prevent him from owning shares in businesses where laws could affect profit. He's giving up millions and millions in profit. And it's not even required for him to do so. 

Either way, no one can call him some scheming presidential profiteer. He's losing money by being the President.


Everyone can call him a scheming profiteer. When you have billions of dollars, losing a few millions is absolute chickens***, especially when you can affect legislation that will give you and your buddies long term tax breaks and industry deregulation.

Like, you know that there's a thousand million in a billion, right? Just checking.


Even if it's all true, it's not against the law and he's already done more than is required of him to do. Except it's not enough for some liberals apparently--they wouldn't be happy unless he sold his entire business, which could take years (Meaning in order to sell it immediately/quickly he would lose a tremendous amount of wealth). 

And it's not just a few million. It's likely millions and millions, which could easily turn out to be hundreds of millions during his presidency if the market continues to perform well. 

The bottom line, though, is no one really gives a ****. The American people, through their votes, put him into office knowing full and well what his business circumstances were.
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pinky0926 13 hours ago#46
Deadpool_18 posted...
The government shouldn't pay for trans surgeries, anyway.


Right, but that seems like a slightly separate issue. The statement wasn't "the government will no longer be covering medical transitions for trans people". It was a pretty clear "trans people will not be allowed to serve in the military in any capacity".
Capn Circus 13 hours ago#47
pinky0926 posted...
President Trump painted the trans issue as an unforturnate but necessary streamlining of government budget


Everyone keeps focusing on the cost. His tweet continued, you know, including the word "disruption".
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pinky0926 13 hours ago#48
Capn Circus posted...
Even if it's all true, it's not against the law and he's already done more than is required of him to do. Except it's not enough for some liberals apparently--they wouldn't be happy unless he sold his entire business, which could take years (Meaning in order to sell it immediately/quickly he would lose a tremendous amount of wealth). 

And it's not just a few million. It's likely millions and millions, which could easily turn out to be hundreds of millions during his presidency if the market continues to perform well. 

The bottom line, though, is no one really gives a ****. The American people, through their votes, put him into office knowing full and well what his business circumstances were.


"Not against the law" when you're talking about the actions of the president becomes a complicated constitutional debate that neither you or I can answer on a message board. Also, "not against the law" is not the same thing as "ethically sound". It's not against the law for a president to pardon himself of his own crimes, apparently. Are you happy with that arrangement, though?

Again, hundreds of millions is still chicken s*** when you have a few billion. I think you're still really underselling just how wealth the guy is. If you lost 5% of your net worth in the effort to make a whole lot more money in the long run, I wouldn't feel bad for you either.

This is of course a distraction. However much he loses is not the point, and was never the point. Stop trying to make him sound like a freakin' martyr when he has everything to gain here and very little to lose. 

The American people were split right down the line. And lots of people clearly give a s***, don't even argue that. It's weird to me that you don't seem to care how the president spends tax dollars though.
hockeybub89 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

All hail King Trump

This is what you should all be doing
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Capn Circus 13 hours ago#50
pinky0926 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Even if it's all true, it's not against the law and he's already done more than is required of him to do. Except it's not enough for some liberals apparently--they wouldn't be happy unless he sold his entire business, which could take years (Meaning in order to sell it immediately/quickly he would lose a tremendous amount of wealth). 

And it's not just a few million. It's likely millions and millions, which could easily turn out to be hundreds of millions during his presidency if the market continues to perform well. 

The bottom line, though, is no one really gives a ****. The American people, through their votes, put him into office knowing full and well what his business circumstances were.


"Not against the law" when you're talking about the actions of the president becomes a complicated constitutional debate that neither you or I can answer on a message board. Also, "not against the law" is not the same thing as "ethically sound". It's not against the law for a president to pardon himself of his own crimes, apparently. Are you happy with that arrangement, though?

Again, hundreds of millions is still chicken s*** when you have a few billion. I think you're still really underselling just how wealth the guy is. If you lost 5% of your net worth in the effort to make a whole lot more money in the long run, I wouldn't feel bad for you either.

This is of course a distraction. However much he loses is not the point, and was never the point. Stop trying to make him sound like a freakin' martyr when he has everything to gain here and very little to lose. 

The American people were split right down the line. And lots of people clearly give a s***, don't even argue that. It's weird to me that you don't seem to care how the president spends tax dollars though.


I see you ignored my point about how expecting him to sell his business is ludicrous and completely unrealistic to ask of someone. I'm sure laws will help some of his "friends", maybe even his business, but they will also help everyday Americans and other businesses he has nothing to do with. 

And I'm not sure if you are fully grasping how much hundreds of millions of dollars is or percentages. It could easily be more than 5% of his wealth. $300 million would be 10%. $600 would be 20%. You're getting into some big money pretty fast. 

Another thing you haven't painted yet is exactly how much he's going to make from his presidency and how is he going to make it? Are the laws specifically only going to affect him and his friends? What are you basing this on? How is he going to make all of this money after already losing a **** ton and/or giving up potential gains?

And yes, during the final stretch---the American people had a choice of one or the other. But leading up to that stretch, people voted for Trump to win the Republican nomination. Republicans had 16 other people to choose and they chose Trump.
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    MasterMacLeod 12 hours ago#51
    Capn Circus posted...
    Villain posted...
    I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


    Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.

    Yea because he surely outweighs it with that
    MasterMacLeod 12 hours ago#52
    glitteringfairy posted...
    hockeybub89 posted...
    Capn Circus posted...
    I'm sure it does cost more. What's your point? He's the president and they aren't

    All hail King Trump

    This is what you should all be doing


    Keep your deeding gimmick
    Capn Circus 12 hours ago#53
    MasterMacLeod posted...
    Capn Circus posted...
    Villain posted...
    I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


    Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.

    Yea because he surely outweighs it with that


    His hotels can be expensive, but his basic rooms are $300-$400/night. Sometimes less depending on the night and location. Two/three agents per room doesn't amount to a massive profit and certainly giving away 400k each year would put a major dent in it, if not outright erode profit altogether. 

    We don't even know if that's the case though. I can't really find any articles that definitively say the secret service is paying Trump to stay at his hotels.
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    Villain 12 hours ago#54
    Have you tried looking outside of inforwars or breitbart?
    MasterMacLeod 11 hours ago#55
    Capn Circus posted...
    MasterMacLeod posted...
    Capn Circus posted...
    Villain posted...
    I care because he's directly profiting off the tax payers since his vacations are at his properties.


    Are we completely sure about that? Regardless, if he cared about profiting so much he wouldn't be donating his quarterly salary.

    Yea because he surely outweighs it with that


    His hotels can be expensive, but his basic rooms are $300-$400/night. Sometimes less depending on the night and location. Two/three agents per room doesn't amount to a massive profit and certainly giving away 400k each year would put a major dent in it, if not outright erode profit altogether. 

    We don't even know if that's the case though. I can't really find any articles that definitively say the secret service is paying Trump to stay at his hotels.


    Do you really believe trump would let that info to come out?
    CADE FOSTER 11 hours ago#56
    It bothers me because he is funneling money our money into his f***ing businesses but its ok when a republican does it
    smoliske 10 hours ago#57
    BillyKidd posted...
    Viagra $0.27 a pill


    lmao more like $60 a pill
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    BillyKidd 8 hours ago#59
    smoliske posted...
    BillyKidd posted...
    Viagra $0.27 a pill


    lmao more like $60 a pill


    http://online-rx.com/categories/Bestsellers/Viagra

    try again. They buy in bulk
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