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Antifar 1 day ago#1
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-no-need-for-full-border-wall-trump-1499975363-htmlstory.html

President Trump, who made the building of a wall along the border with Mexico a central promise of his campaign, significantly scaled back the pledge Thursday.

"You don't need 2,000 miles of wall because you have a lot of natural barriers," Trump said to reporters on Air Force One during his flight to Paris. 

"You have mountains. You have some rivers that are violent and vicious. You have some areas that are so far away that you don't really have people crossing. So you don't need that."

"You'll need anywhere from 700 to 900 miles," he said.

About 600 miles of the southern border already are protected by walls, fences or other barriers. It was unclear from Trump's remarks whether the figure he cited referred to new border protections or included those already in existence, but he appeared to suggest that fixing current border fences would count against the total he had in mind.

"You know, we've already started the wall because we're fixing large portions of wall right now," he said. "We're taking wall that was good but it's in very bad shape, and we're making it new."

Trump also offered a very different description of the border barrier than he portrayed in campaign rallies, where he would sometimes talk about a wall 30 feet high.

His new description closely resembles the border fencing built under Presidents George W. Bush and Obama.

"You need transparency. You have to be able to see through it," Trump said.

"In other words, if you can't see through that wall -- so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what's on the other side of the wall."
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P4wn4g3 1 day ago#3
Wait, are you saying there won't be a wall?
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Blue_Inigo 1 day ago#5
Why does he talk like an idiot
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Kavatar 1 day ago#6
So he's going to simply continue what was already going on and claim credit for it? Hey, it would be just like the rest of his presidency!
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I'm f***ing pissed. I want a 2,000 mile wall and I want it now. 

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HylianFox 1 day ago#8
he didn't LOCK HER UP either
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Tmaster148 1 day ago#9
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.
HylianFox 1 day ago#10
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

He also flat-out insulted his base when he said he wouldn't
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The wall was hands down his dumbest idea. I really wish the entire thing would be be scrapped.

I mean, it's 2017 now. We should have a full-time legion of aerial drones monitoring the border. The same effect of stopping illegal Mexicans can be accomplished much more cheaply.
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ArchiePeck 1 day ago#12
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rofl

I wonder where all the Trump supporters are who said there'd be a full wall for sure.
HylianFox 1 day ago#14
Trump supporters are abused spouses, they will justify anything he does and refuse to see that they are victims
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P4wn4g3 1 day ago#15
The Admiral posted...
The wall was hands down his dumbest idea. I really wish the entire thing would be be scrapped.

I mean, it's 2017 now. We should have a full-time legion of aerial drones monitoring the border. The same effect of stopping illegal Mexicans can be accomplished much more cheaply.

It's cheaper to just supply block the border and put a bunch of Marines there, though obviously you'd need detectors. We'd be screwed if they have Guardians or Brood Lords though.
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P4wn4g3 posted...
The Admiral posted...
The wall was hands down his dumbest idea. I really wish the entire thing would be be scrapped.

I mean, it's 2017 now. We should have a full-time legion of aerial drones monitoring the border. The same effect of stopping illegal Mexicans can be accomplished much more cheaply.

It's cheaper to just supply block the border and put a bunch of Marines there, though obviously you'd need detectors. We'd be screwed if they have Guardians or Brood Lords though.


A+
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Why does he talk like an idiot


if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ...
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teepan95 1 day ago#19
HylianFox 1 day ago#20
TIL walls need openings to be able to see through
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Antifar 1 day ago#21
HylianFox posted...
TIL walls need openings to be able to see through

Yeah, it's unfortunate that the context of that was not included in the article. It's so much dumber in context. 
https://twitter.com/Kyle_Feldscher/status/885581965566636033
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TheVipaGTS 1 day ago#22
*waits for the defense force to flip flop with great leader*
Trump is a lot smarter than people give him credit for

The wall is a dumb idea so instead he makes a fence just like Bush and Obama did which is also a dumb idea but much much less dumb. 

His supporters eat it up because he called it a wall.

And sensible people are relieved 

Hes been playing you like a fiddle for 3 years now
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Appollyn 1 day ago#24
sktgamer_13dude posted...
rofl

I wonder where all the Trump supporters are who said there'd be a full wall for sure.


The vast majority of them wanted a wall in general. Trump has been saying we would use the natural terrain as a "wall" in certain appropriate places this whole time.
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Tmaster148 1 day ago#25
Antifar posted...
HylianFox posted...
TIL walls need openings to be able to see through

Yeah, it's unfortunate that the context of that was not included in the article. It's so much dumber in context. 
https://twitter.com/Kyle_Feldscher/status/885581965566636033


Maybe he just wants to put in some nice windows on the wall.
Axiom 1 day ago#26
So how long until "Eh our border is doing just fine as it is"
HylianFox 1 day ago#27
Axiom posted...
So how long until "Eh our border is doing just fine as it is"

I'd give it another 6 months
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Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives
Leight_Weight posted...
I'm f***ing pissed. I want a 2,000 mile wall and I want it now. 

Call JG Trumpworth! 877-WALLNOW!


*screams out window*

"IT'S MY COUNTRY AND I WANT A WALL NOOOOOW!"
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Nikra 1 day ago#30
where there's a will there's a way. 
No damn wall will never stop illegal imigration. The only way is to help Mexico learn how to take care of their population.
But what if billions of Mexicans pour into that little hole in the wall?
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Samurontai 1 day ago#33
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time
Samurontai posted...
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time

"Well my wife isn't interested in women and Hillary's diet probably makes her s*** taste worse."
Appollyn 22 hours ago#35
hockeybub89 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time

"Well my wife isn't interested in women and Hillary's diet probably makes her s*** taste worse."


You guys are the reason why independent voters decided the election by voting for Trump. If if came down to Trump vs Sanders last year I would have been split but seeing comments like this is what would cause me to have voted Trump over him. Pretty much respected both candidates stances on issues but would choose Trump just to anger people like you.
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Tmaster148 22 hours ago#36
Appollyn posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time

"Well my wife isn't interested in women and Hillary's diet probably makes her s*** taste worse."


You guys are the reason why independent voters decided the election by voting for Trump. If if came down to Trump vs Sanders last year I would have been split but seeing comments like this is what would cause me to have voted Trump over him. Pretty much respected both candidates stances on issues but would choose Trump just to anger people like you.


Or many independents decided to not vote, because both options were awful. Trump supporter's aren't a group of innocent people who are being attacked. Trump supporter also attack others.
lilJoe457 22 hours ago#37
As a loose supporter of Trump. I knew he'd neg on that. I can tell the issues he'd pull back on and the ones he wouldn't. So far I'm 100 percent on it.
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hockeybub89 22 hours ago#38
Appollyn posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time

"Well my wife isn't interested in women and Hillary's diet probably makes her s*** taste worse."


You guys are the reason why independent voters decided the election by voting for Trump. If if came down to Trump vs Sanders last year I would have been split but seeing comments like this is what would cause me to have voted Trump over him. Pretty much respected both candidates stances on issues but would choose Trump just to anger people like you.

I also hated Hillary and said nasty things about her and thought Gary Johnson and Jill Stein were idiots. You would have to have gotten real creative to spite me. Also, spite is a well known determining factor in the decisions of "educated" voters.
Sayoria 22 hours ago#39
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Axiom 22 hours ago#40
Appollyn posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time

"Well my wife isn't interested in women and Hillary's diet probably makes her s*** taste worse."


You guys are the reason why independent voters decided the election by voting for Trump. If if came down to Trump vs Sanders last year I would have been split but seeing comments like this is what would cause me to have voted Trump over him. Pretty much respected both candidates stances on issues but would choose Trump just to anger people like you.

If you let random comments on the internet sway you then you've got bigger problems than who to vote for
Appollyn 22 hours ago#41
Tmaster148 posted...
wful. Trump supporter's aren't a group of innocent people who are being attacked. Trump supporter also attack others.


You can say that about any group of voters but the one's who go out to vote are the one's who decide which direction the country would be heading for the next 4+ years. In the end, independent votes decided the election by voting for Trump. 

And yes, both sides have dumb people attacking others but the liberal side has an extra splash of holier than thou attitude. This attitude is what caused a lot of independent voters like myself to distance myself from their candidate if they were split on who to vote for.
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Honestly, Trump's presence has been just as effective as a wall. The man's on fire.
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Appollyn 22 hours ago#43
hockeybub89 posted...
Appollyn posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
HylianFox posted...
he didn't LOCK HER UP either


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time

"Well my wife isn't interested in women and Hillary's diet probably makes her s*** taste worse."


You guys are the reason why independent voters decided the election by voting for Trump. If if came down to Trump vs Sanders last year I would have been split but seeing comments like this is what would cause me to have voted Trump over him. Pretty much respected both candidates stances on issues but would choose Trump just to anger people like you.

I also hated Hillary and said nasty things about her and thought Gary Johnson and Jill Stein were idiots. You would have to have gotten real creative to spite me. Also, spite is a well known determining factor in the decisions of "educated" voters.


Did you not even read my comment? The whole scenario revolved around being split between two candidates. If two candidates were equal in their respective ways then yes, comments like this would and did affect elections. I made an excel sheet with all the major stances on topics for each candidate and gave points based on which one I agree with more. It was pretty much a dead tie. That is a pretty objective way to determine who to vote for so don't try to attack my "education".
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V-E-G-Y- 22 hours ago#44
bevan306 22 hours ago#45
Bishop9800 22 hours ago#46
GregShmedley posted...
Leight_Weight posted...
I'm f***ing pissed. I want a 2,000 mile wall and I want it now. 

Call JG Trumpworth! 877-WALLNOW!


*screams out window*

"IT'S MY COUNTRY AND I WANT A WALL NOOOOOW!"


*Singing* I have a unguarded boarder, and I need a wall now!
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Appollyn posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Appollyn posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Samurontai posted...
Seaman_Prime posted...
Tmaster148 posted...


He pretty much dropped that the moment he got elected president. Surprised that didn't see more outrage from his fanbase.

His fan base would let him f*** their wives


And s*** in their mouths. Probably at the same time

"Well my wife isn't interested in women and Hillary's diet probably makes her s*** taste worse."


You guys are the reason why independent voters decided the election by voting for Trump. If if came down to Trump vs Sanders last year I would have been split but seeing comments like this is what would cause me to have voted Trump over him. Pretty much respected both candidates stances on issues but would choose Trump just to anger people like you.

I also hated Hillary and said nasty things about her and thought Gary Johnson and Jill Stein were idiots. You would have to have gotten real creative to spite me. Also, spite is a well known determining factor in the decisions of "educated" voters.


Did you not even read my comment? The whole scenario revolved around being split between two candidates. If two candidates were equal in their respective ways then yes, comments like this would and did affect elections. I made an excel sheet with all the major stances on topics for each candidate and gave points based on which one I agree with more. It was pretty much a dead tie. That is a pretty objective way to determine who to vote for so don't try to attack my "education".

Says the guy getting butthurt when Trump supporters have been going on racist tirades all over America. That lady in the Sprint store calling the Latino workers various slurs and threatening to beat him up, the latest duckbear topic, etc.
P4wn4g3 22 hours ago#48
Appollyn posted...
Did you not even read my comment? The whole scenario revolved around being split between two candidates. If two candidates were equal in their respective ways then yes, comments like this would and did affect elections. I made an excel sheet with all the major stances on topics for each candidate and gave points based on which one I agree with more. It was pretty much a dead tie. That is a pretty objective way to determine who to vote for so don't try to attack my "education".

This is a lol worthy discussion. You clearly don't understand though.
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mario2000 22 hours ago#49
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
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WaterLink 21 hours ago#50
I've said it from the beginning, anyone who thinks the wall is going to actually be built is a moron. It was never going to happen. And then he came out and said Mexico was gonna pay for it. I laughed my ass off because that was FOR SURE not going to happen. But seeing people on both sides react to it was priceless. You had some on the left acting like the world was crashing down then you saw some on the right acting like a Utopia was coming. 

Like seriously, did anyone really truly think some kind of Great Wall of China thing was going to be erected in a few years? And we were going to get another country to pay for it? 

This is just the first of many backtracks on this thing. The final product of a "wall" might be some little fence on some random part of the border that he'll take a picture in front of to act like he's done something. It was never going to happen.
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