Study: Trump supporters know Trump lies. They just dont care.

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Kitepitou 1 day ago#1 The research group then conducted a second experiment during the presidential debates. This one was conducted in near-real time: On the night of the first presidential debate, the group ran an online study with 1,500-plus participants. The study focused on one Trump claim in particular. Trump said “thousands of jobs [are] leaving Michigan, Ohio ... they’re just gone.” This, again, isn’t true. The Bureau of Labor Statistics actually finds both states created 70,000 new jobs in the previous year. Half of the participants saw the correction; the other half did not. Again, the researchers found no evidence of backfire. It’s worth underscoring: This was on the night of the first presidential debate. It’s the Super Bowl of presidential politics. If corrections aren’t going to backfire during a debate, when will they? Facts sink in. But they don’t matter. Let that sink in. In both experiments, the researchers couldn’t find instance of backfire. Instead, they found that corrections did what they were intended to do: nudge people toward the truth. Trump supporters were more resistant to the nudge, but they were nudged all the same. But here’s the kicker: The corrections didn’t change their feelings about Trump (when participants in the corrections conditions were compared with controls). “People were willing to say Trump was wrong, but it didn’t have much of an effect on what they felt about him,” Nyhan says. So facts make an impression. They just don’t matter for our decision-making, which is a conclusion that’s abundant in psychology science. (And if you’re thinking, “How could one short experimental manipulation really change how much participants like Trump?” know that other research shows it’s possible. Notably, studies conducted during the election found that just reminding white voters they may be a racial minority one day increased support for Trump.) “The big question is: To what extent do those results generalize beyond Trump himself?” says Nyhan. “Many of his supporters may have to come to terms with his records of misstatements by the time this study was conducted.” (The researchers did not test any fact-checks of Hillary Clinton talking points.) Nyhan doesn’t place blame on Trump supporters themselves; it’s just human nature to stand by our political party’s candidates. But he says there’s something wrong with our institutions, norms, and party leaders who enable the rise of candidates who constantly lie. https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2017/7/10/15928438/fact-checks-political-psychology Sounds about right when it comes to his supporters when I debate with them IRL, although the ones on the internet tend to deny it from what I've noticed. "I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions." FemShep - Mass Effect 2. reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#2 Kitepitou posted... www.vox.com Lmfao He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

Vertania 1 day ago#3 “The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.” -from The Art of the Deal reportquote

LinksLiege 1 day ago#4 This just in: fetis***ation of group identity leads people to be f***ing stupid.  More at 11. This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. reportquote

Tropicalwood 1 day ago#5 Study: Obama supporters knew Obama lied. They just didn't care. ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya reportquote

gafemaqs 1 day ago#6 Vertania posted... “The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.” -from The Art of the Deal If only he were as eloquent as his ghostwriter made him seem. reportquote

Doom_Art 1 day ago#7 Vertania posted... “The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.” -from The Art of the Deal Damn, it'd be impressive if he actually wrote it.  Tropicalwood posted... Study: Obama supporters knew Obama lied. They just didn't care. literally "but Obama!" Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#8 Doom_Art posted... Vertania posted... “The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people’s fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That’s why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.” -from The Art of the Deal Damn, it'd be impressive if he actually wrote it.  Tropicalwood posted... Study: Obama supporters knew Obama lied. They just didn't care. literally "but Obama!" Why did you bump this topic? He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

Doom_Art 1 day ago#9 JohnLennon6 posted... Why did you bump this topic? Show up in "More topics from this board..." and I felt like posting in it? Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png reportquote

Go_Totodile 1 day ago#10 Yeah good thing other politicians are honest Oh wait reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#11 Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Why did you bump this topic? Show up in "More topics from this board..." and I felt like posting in it? I already pointed out why it shouldn't be taken seriously... He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

Capn Circus 1 day ago#12 Just because they added a few jobs the previous year doesn't mean they're not down overall. "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

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Muffinz0rz 1 day ago#14 JohnLennon6 posted... Kitepitou posted... www.vox.com Lmfao Not changing this sig until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) BRAVELY DEFAULT: 1075 - 0844 - 9134 + FS: Pumkaboo, Lampent, Dusclops. reportquote

metralo 1 day ago#15 JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Why did you bump this topic? Show up in "More topics from this board..." and I felt like posting in it? I already pointed out why it shouldn't be taken seriously... But yet you argue relentlessly against people who do the same thing to Breitbart. Interesting. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#16 metralo posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Why did you bump this topic? Show up in "More topics from this board..." and I felt like posting in it? I already pointed out why it shouldn't be taken seriously... But yet you argue relentlessly against people who do the same thing to Breitbart. Interesting. You're an admitted gimmick account. He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

Samurontai 1 day ago#17 JohnLennon6 posted... metralo posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Why did you bump this topic? Show up in "More topics from this board..." and I felt like posting in it? I already pointed out why it shouldn't be taken seriously... But yet you argue relentlessly against people who do the same thing to Breitbart. Interesting. You're an admitted gimmick account. Irony http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif reportquote

XXmiznatorXX 1 day ago#18 JohnLennon6 posted... Kitepitou posted... www.vox.com Lmfao This. And I'm not even a Trump supporter. reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#19 Samurontai posted... JohnLennon6 posted... metralo posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Why did you bump this topic? Show up in "More topics from this board..." and I felt like posting in it? I already pointed out why it shouldn't be taken seriously... But yet you argue relentlessly against people who do the same thing to Breitbart. Interesting. You're an admitted gimmick account. Irony Metralo's gimmick is to always be as much of a liberal s***poster as possible. He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

reeekt 1 day ago#20 What about Hillary supporters? ALL lives matter. reportquote

Jabodie 1 day ago#21 News: facts don't change people's opinions, as has been well documented by similar studies for decades. <insert sig here> reportquote

Steve Nick 1 day ago#22 the truth is that everyone knows we have no better option, and even if we did, there's nothing we can do about it nobody wanted either Trump or Hillary. But that's what we got. So let's say you've got Trump voters on one side. They know their choice is s***. They can't do anything about it. You got Hillary voters on the other side. They know their choice is s***. They can't do anything about it. So they just plug their ears and ignore all corruption. This is my signature. (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

E32005 1 day ago#23 LinksLiege posted... This just in: fetis***ation of group identity leads people to be f***ing stupid.  More at 11. http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif reportquote

metralo 1 day ago#24 JohnLennon6 posted... Metralo's gimmick is to always be as much of a liberal s***poster as possible. So you're the opposite, you just haven't admitted it yet. It gets tiring, I'm sure you'll retire that account soon enough. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#25 metralo posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Metralo's gimmick is to always be as much of a liberal s***poster as possible. So you're the opposite, you just haven't admitted it yet. It gets tiring, I'm sure you'll retire that account soon enough. Did you just admit that you're a troll? He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

gafemaqs 1 day ago#26 hello reportquote

Doom_Art 1 day ago#27 JohnLennon6 posted... Did you just admit that you're a troll? are you not? Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#28 Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Did you just admit that you're a troll? are you not? No, I'm not a troll. I just get frustrated easily. He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

Tmaster148 1 day ago#29 JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Did you just admit that you're a troll? are you not? No, I'm not a troll. I just get frustrated easily. So you just meltdown all the time? http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#30 Tmaster148 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Did you just admit that you're a troll? are you not? No, I'm not a troll. I just get frustrated easily. So you just meltdown all the time? To many of you people, any conservative expressing his belief is considered 'melting down'. He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

Samurontai 1 day ago#31 JohnLennon6 posted... Tmaster148 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Did you just admit that you're a troll? are you not? No, I'm not a troll. I just get frustrated easily. So you just meltdown all the time? To many of you people, any conservative expressing his belief is considered 'melting down'. Only when you come across as extremely whiny and defensive So yeah you're pretty much right, since that's what you guys do about 98% of the time http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif reportquote

Stover46 1 day ago#32 Go_Totodile posted... Yeah good thing other politicians are honest Oh wait I thought Trump is supposed to be different? 3DS FC: 4141-6111-4038  http://i.imgur.com/KAy7cdo.gif - so hyped http://i.imgur.com/RETdTVM.jpg reportquote

Tmaster148 1 day ago#33 JohnLennon6 posted... Tmaster148 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Doom_Art posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Did you just admit that you're a troll? are you not? No, I'm not a troll. I just get frustrated easily. So you just meltdown all the time? To many of you people, any conservative expressing his belief is considered 'melting down'. When you get frustrated easily and make posts that make people think you are a troll, that's melting down. http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

MC_BatCommander 1 day ago#34 Yeah he's much better than those lying politicians The Legend is True! reportquote

That_Happened 1 day ago#35 JohnLennon6 posted... Kitepitou posted... www.vox.com Lmfao That's weird. When I said "lol redstate" and "lol brietbart" in your s***ty topics, you responded JohnLennon6 posted... KiwiTerraRizing posted... Flermin posted... That_Happened posted... redstate.com No thanks. You can't just ignore a source because you don't like it. Now suddenly it's ok to dismiss a source "because you don't like it?" Explain, troll. http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#36 When everyone else dismisses my sources because they don't like them, isn't it only fair for me to dismiss theirs? He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

Samurontai 1 day ago#37 That_Happened posted... JohnLennon6 posted... Kitepitou posted... www.vox.com Lmfao That's weird. When I said "lol redstate" and "lol brietbart" in your s***ty topics, you responded JohnLennon6 posted... KiwiTerraRizing posted... Flermin posted... That_Happened posted... redstate.com No thanks. You can't just ignore a source because you don't like it. Now suddenly it's ok to dismiss a source "because you don't like it?" Explain, troll. Rekt http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif reportquote

Tmaster148 1 day ago#38 JohnLennon6 posted... When everyone else dismisses my sources because they don't like them, isn't it only fair for me to dismiss theirs? Would you jump off a bridge if everyone else was doing it? http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

JohnLennon6 1 day ago#39 Tmaster148 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... When everyone else dismisses my sources because they don't like them, isn't it only fair for me to dismiss theirs? Would you jump off a bridge if everyone else was doing it? No, but I don't see why I should have to put up with certain sources if people can just refuse to read my articles because of the website where I got them. He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

That_Happened 1 day ago#40 JohnLennon6 posted... When everyone else dismisses my sources because they don't like them, isn't it only fair for me to dismiss theirs? Only if you don't protest to people dismissing your sources. Can't have it both ways. Either b**** like a little girl about people dismissing your s***ty biased right wing sources, or shut the f*** up about people calling out your garbage sites and call out others when they use s*** like vox. But don't cry when it happens to you and then use the same tactics on others. f***ing hypocrites, man. http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg reportquote

Tmaster148 1 day ago#41 JohnLennon6 posted... Tmaster148 posted... JohnLennon6 posted... When everyone else dismisses my sources because they don't like them, isn't it only fair for me to dismiss theirs? Would you jump off a bridge if everyone else was doing it? No, but I don't see why I should have to put up with certain sources if people can just refuse to read my articles because of the website where I got them. Well if you think people shouldn't judge a source based on where it's from and you wouldn't jump off a bridge because everyone else is doing so. Then you shouldn't laugh at a source. Otherwise you are just being a hypocrite. http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

Vertania 1 day ago#42 Tmaster148 posted... Well if you think people shouldn't judge a source based on where it's from and you wouldn't jump off a bridge because everyone else is doing so. Then you shouldn't laugh at a source. Otherwise you are just being a hypocrite. So only people on the left are allowed to ignore information based on its source. Got it. And CE acts like it's morally superior to The_Donald. reportquote

MC_BatCommander 1 day ago#43 Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... Well if you think people shouldn't judge a source based on where it's from and you wouldn't jump off a bridge because everyone else is doing so. Then you shouldn't laugh at a source. Otherwise you are just being a hypocrite. So only people on the left are allowed to ignore information based on its source. Got it. And CE acts like it's morally superior to The_Donald. lmao, dat leap in logic. The Legend is True! reportquote

Tmaster148 1 day ago#44 Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... Well if you think people shouldn't judge a source based on where it's from and you wouldn't jump off a bridge because everyone else is doing so. Then you shouldn't laugh at a source. Otherwise you are just being a hypocrite. So only people on the left are allowed to ignore information based on its source. Got it. And CE acts like it's morally superior to The_Donald. I did not say that nor am I advocating such behavior. If you want to complain that people are b****ing about the sites you use, don't turn around and b**** about the sites other people are using. http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

That_Happened 1 day ago#45 Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... Well if you think people shouldn't judge a source based on where it's from and you wouldn't jump off a bridge because everyone else is doing so. Then you shouldn't laugh at a source. Otherwise you are just being a hypocrite. So only people on the left are allowed to ignore information based on its source. Got it. Lots of derp replies today. Must be something in the water. http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg reportquote

Vertania 1 day ago#46 Tmaster148 posted... If you want to complain that people are b****ing about the sites you use, don't turn around and b**** about the sites other people are using. I never have. Yet every time I make a topic that doesn't cite a mainstream news source, I get the same pack of s*** posters (Doom_Art, etc.) coming into it to post "lol source" and ignore anything the topic actually says. Latest example: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75554705 (edited 1 day ago)reportquote

Tmaster148 1 day ago#47 Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... If you want to complain that people are b****ing about the sites you use, don't turn around and b**** about the sites other people are using. I never have. Yet every time I make a topic that doesn't cite a mainstream news source, I get the same pack of s*** posters (Doom_Art, etc.) coming into it to post "lol source" and ignore anything the topic actually says. Then what I said is not referring to you. http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

sktgamer_13dude 1 day ago#48 idk if it's been said yet, but was the study conducted here on CE? http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B reportquote

Vertania 23 hours ago#49 Tmaster148 posted... Then what I said is not referring to you. I still have to put up with this s*** all the time though. When a topic cites CNN or Washington Post, the "lol source" comments usually come off as jokes. The content of the link still gets discussed. reportquote

Tmaster148 23 hours ago#50 Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... Then what I said is not referring to you. I still have to put up with this s*** all the time though. When a topic cites CNN or Washington Post, the "lol source" comments usually come off as jokes. The content of the link still gets discussed. I really do not care what you go through with. http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

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   Vertania 23 hours ago#51 Tmaster148 posted... I really do not care what you go through with. Vertania posted... And CE acts like it's morally superior to The_Donald. reportquote

   That_Happened 23 hours ago#52 Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... Then what I said is not referring to you. I still have to put up with this s*** all the time though. When a topic cites CNN or Washington Post, the "lol source" comments usually come off as jokes. The content of the link still gets discussed. Brietbart, Redstate and others have no credibility and should be mocked. That's their fault, not other people's for pointing it out. Vox and occupy democrats are total s*** too, but you so rarely see liberal s***posters here using them...meanwhile conservative s***posters regularly use wackjob alt right conspiracy sites as the basis for their topics. Don't want to be mocked? Make better posts using sources that aren't total s***. Otherwise you deserve any criticism you get. http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg reportquote

   Tmaster148 23 hours ago#53 Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... I really do not care what you go through with. Vertania posted... And CE acts like it's morally superior to The_Donald. You are the one trying to impose your problems with this board into a different discussion. http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png (edited 23 hours ago)reportquote

   MC_BatCommander 23 hours ago#54 Tmaster148 posted... Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... I really do not care what you go through with. Vertania posted... And CE acts like it's morally superior to The_Donald. You are the one trying to impose your problems with this board into a different discussion. he seems super sensitive about it tbh The Legend is True! reportquote

   faizan_faizan 23 hours ago#55 Shocking. Allergic to bull****. reportquote

   EyeWontBeFooled 23 hours ago#56 What a glorious trainwreck of a topic! You come up with something better! reportquote

   Vertania 23 hours ago#57 That_Happened posted... Brietbart, Redstate and others have no credibility and should be mocked... Don't want to be mocked? Make better posts using sources that aren't total s***. Otherwise you deserve any criticism you get. If I had ever actually posted a link from Breitbart, Redstate, ZeroHedge, etc., you might have a point. If I ever do come across an article from one of those sites (not that I visit them regularly), I always find the source of what they're talking about and post the original material. Even that's not enough. This pattern of dismissing everything is not helping your side. Instead of making them look smart, it makes them look like they can't form an actual argument against anything that challenges what they've been told. reportquote

   Tmaster148 23 hours ago#58 MC_BatCommander posted... Tmaster148 posted... Vertania posted... Tmaster148 posted... I really do not care what you go through with. Vertania posted... And CE acts like it's morally superior to The_Donald. You are the one trying to impose your problems with this board into a different discussion. he seems super sensitive about it tbh Like if he didn't start off completely misconstruing my post to complain, I might have of had some sympathy. However, it's pretty obvious he's just butthurt about it and I don't have the energy to deal with someone else's hurt feelings. http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png reportquote

   That_Happened 23 hours ago#59 Vertania posted... That_Happened posted... Brietbart, Redstate and others have no credibility and should be mocked... Don't want to be mocked? Make better posts using sources that aren't total s***. Otherwise you deserve any criticism you get. If I had ever actually posted a link from Breitbart, Redstate, ZeroHedge, etc., you might have a point. If I ever do come across an article from one of those sites (not that I visit them regularly), I always find the source of what they're talking about and post the original material. Even that's not enough. This pattern of dismissing everything is not helping your side. Instead of making them look smart, it makes them look like they can't form an actual argument against anything that challenges what they've been told. I'm talking about the majority of conservative s***posters here. If you don't fit that mold then thanks for being a decent person. http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg reportquote

   JohnLennon6 18 hours ago#60 Holy Assumptions Batman! He has good daygame - MasterOfMissions reportquote

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