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Only 13% of Republicans say Hillary support would strain a friendship
 http://www.people-press.org/2017/07/20/since-trumps-election-increased-attention-to-politics-especially-among-women/ And apparently, white liberals are way more petty than minority liberals. So much for the tolerant left
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You need a different hobby.
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Guilty. Don't hold us responsible for your poor character judgement. Kthx.
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Dat tribalism
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Conservatives are putting up with treason you guys have no leg to stand on
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CADE FOSTER posted...
Conservatives are putting up with treason you guys have no leg to stand on Been looking for evidence of treason since last year before the election and there's still none. Imagine still believing this.
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Obnoxious man who spends all day crying and arguing about liberals on the internet: Look at how upset those liberals are about conservatives
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ultimate reaver posted...
Obnoxious man who spends all day crying and arguing about liberals on the internet: Look at how upset those liberals are about conservatives And yet I still have friends who voted for Hillary and idgaf.
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ultimate reaver posted...
Obnoxious man who spends all day crying and arguing about liberals on the internet: Look at how upset those liberals are about conservatives |
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Trump really isn't your typical politician though, whereas Clinton was.
I expect not many liberals would have a hard time being friends with someone who supported Kasich, Jeb Bush, or even Cruz. |
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Mal_Fet posted...
ultimate reaver posted... "I-I-I'm a normal p-person"
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I thought that polls used that made up math bullshit and didn't mean anything
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Anti-Trump fragility is off the charts.
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literal_garbage posted...
I thought that polls used that made up math bullshit and didn't mean anything You're thinking of projections.
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http://www.sltrib.com/home/5524063-155/byu-idaho-professor-is-fired-over-lgbt
That's funny because a teacher was recently fired after one of her right-wing "friends" reported a private post about her pro-gay views to her employer who fired her for it |
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Notice how going to college = much more likely to put a strain on a friendship
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ultimate reaver posted...
Mal_Fet posted... I also have friends who voted for Hilary. I even let them in my house because I don't hate people for voting for someone i don't like
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I know several Liberal Democrats who voted for Reagan back in the day and really like Reagan. They are probably the ones who said it wouldn't make a difference.
The should have separated this between Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials
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That's childish.
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I'd judge their political intelligence/opinion but it wouldn't alter our friendship in any way.
Though I'm not a democrat so I guess I don't count.
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tolerant liberals
pick one.
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I mean if you find out your friend is a complete moron you would naturally lose respect for them which would put a strain on any relationship.
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So far some of the posts in this topic are proving TC's point.
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Conservatives are putting up with treason you guys have no leg to stand on Tin foil hat alert!
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I found out my landlord who is also my neighbor is a trump supporter, along with at least one other person in the group I know them through (met them through the upstairs neighbors before the now landlord bought the property from my former landlady who is the mother of one of the guys upstairs? I think they're all cousins). They asked to me take a picture of them on the 4th of July with their trump hats and shirts. I thought they were wearing them sarcastically. Apparently they had been at various bars that day and had been getting dirty looks. Various other people had flat out refused to take their picture because they support trump. This is a very liberal area. I was surprised that they genuinely like trump, but I took the picture and I don't have anything against them. They seemed like good people before and that doesn't change just because of this development.
I have 2 friends in Boston on opposite sides who no longer speak to one another after having been friends for longer than either has known me. The pro-trump unfriended and blocked the anti-trump one for allegedly arguing "Nelson Mandela isn't a terrorist" in addition to being anti-trump. The anti-trump friend also unsubscribed or unfollowed (but not unfriended) (I don't know if I am using the right words. I don't Facebook much >_>) the wife of another friend because she was MORE anti-trump than he is and he was sick of seeing her anti-trump rants flooding his page >_> So yeah. Also this "tolerant left" meme is extremely overdone and boring and you should be ashamed of yourself for not having moved past it by now.
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I'm pretty sure this has less to do with liberals being petty and more to do with trump being a terrible president and most of his supporters being racist/ignorant/impossible to deal with
The trump supporters would just stay in those friendships to try to convince the other person trump doesn't suck
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Yeah no shit. I cut ties with most of my extended family, skipped Thanksgiving and Xmas and I'll probably do the same this year. Anyone who supported that evil corrupt racist misogynistic lying Putinistic authoritarian sexual-assaulting profiteering demogogue isnt worth my time. Not tolerant of other people's intolerance kthx!
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
So yeah. Also this "tolerant left" meme is extremely overdone and boring and you should be ashamed of yourself for not having moved past it by now. It's not just a meme when almost half of liberal democrats are so insular that they can't be friends with someone who doesn't vote like they do. Also, your anecdote about a Trump supporter you know who is also like that doesn't prove the statistics are wrong. It just means he's one of the 13% of petty Republicans.
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Yeah no shit. I cut ties with most of my extended family, skipped Thanksgiving and Xmas and I'll probably do the same this year. Anyone who supported that evil corrupt racist misogynistic lying Putinistic authoritarian sexual-assaulting profiteering demogogue isnt worth my time. Not tolerant of other people's intolerance kthx! This dude hates his family because of who they voted for. This is pathetic.
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Mal_Fet posted...
literal_garbage posted... Aren't they the same thing!?!?
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literal_garbage posted...
Mal_Fet posted... No...?
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Mal_Fet posted...
literal_garbage posted... Nuh uh
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HydraSlayer82 posted...
Malcolm_Caradoc posted... Pretty sure that his post is sarcasm. There was a user here a few months ago that was gloating how much better he was than his family by skipping Thanksgiving, so Malcom is just making fun of him.
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Typical liberals
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Mal_Fet posted...
almost half of liberal democrats are so insular that they can't be friends with someone who doesn't vote like they do. You keep acting like you would have the same results putting any other Republican into his place. |
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted... If I were Russian I wouldnt be friends with someone who voted for Putin. If I were Turkish I wouldnt be friends with someone who voted for Erdogan. If I were Venezuelan I wouldnt be friends with somebody who voted for Maduro. I'm not friends with people who support authoritarianism and corruption, people not retaliating against political radicals by cutting ties is what allowed extremists like Mal Fet to go off the deep end purging RINOs and treading closer and closer to fascism for the last 20 yrs. I care about my country more than I care about being friends with Trumpistas.
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Hundred percent serious and I dont give two shits
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Hundred percent serious and I dont give two shits Clearly you do if you're using silly terms like Trumpistas lol |
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i'd give my friend unending shit for being a blind idiot but i wouldnt stop being their friend
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So if we're finally acknowledging polls, how about that record disapproval rating?
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Yeah I am not going to be friends with someone who supports a man who throws black people out of his rallies for no reason and use Neo-Nazi lies to attack black people Among a host of other horrible things. The fact that people support him this much is a honestly sickening .
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Imagine ending a friendship over an election. Though tbh if someone ended up disowning me because of who I voted for there was bound to be some other petty shit down the road that would have done it anyway.
Also lol at some of the comments in this thread. Keep on being CE; CE.
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well it's impossible to respect trump supporters, and it's hard to be friends with someone you don't respect
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Mal_Fet posted...
Only 13% of Republicans say Hillary support would strain a friendship Well, that doesn't sounds like a bullshit statistic at all.
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Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
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It wouldn't strain a friendship if someone I know voted for Trump.
If they actually support him, then yeah, that could cause a strain.
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted... Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party. |
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Annihilated posted...
Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
So yeah. Also this "tolerant left" meme is extremely overdone and boring and you should be ashamed of yourself for not having moved past it by now.
It's not just a meme when almost half of liberal democrats are so insular that they can't be friends with someone who doesn't vote like they do.
Also, your anecdote about a Trump supporter you know who is also like that doesn't prove the statistics are wrong. It just means he's one of the 13% of petty Republicans.
If I were Russian I wouldnt be friends with someone who voted for Putin. If I were Turkish I wouldnt be friends with someone who voted for Erdogan. If I were Venezuelan I wouldnt be friends with somebody who voted for Maduro. I'm not friends with people who support authoritarianism and corruption, people not retaliating against political radicals by cutting ties is what allowed extremists like Mal Fet to go off the deep end purging RINOs and treading closer and closer to fascism for the last 20 yrs. I care about my country more than I care about being friends with Trumpistas.
Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
You schooled that kid goodcjsdowg posted...
Yeah I am not going to be friends with someone who supports a man who throws black people out of his rallies for no reason
Starting a fight is "no reason", huh
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/22/black-activist-punched-at-donald-trump-rally-in-birmingham/
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellCrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
And vice versa.
I love how people purposely act ignorant that both parties share in this shit behavior.
I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles BukowskiMalcolm_Caradoc posted...
If I were Russian I wouldnt be friends with someone who voted for Putin. If I were Turkish I wouldnt be friends with someone who voted for Erdogan. If I were Venezuelan I wouldnt be friends with somebody who voted for Maduro.
You need to be a special kind of delusional to believe Trump is anywhere close to as bad as these people.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellCrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
Fake News: anything that disagrees with their narrative that Trump is the best president ever
Trooth: Anything that pisses off non Trump supporters or makes them look bad
even if I were a woman, I would never want to be my girlfriend - FranklinAnnihilated posted...
Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.Bullet_Wing posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
Fake News: anything that disagrees with their narrative that Trump is the best president ever
Trooth: Anything that pisses off non Trump supporters or makes them look bad
Fake newsCrimsonRage posted...
Annihilated posted...
Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
That's correct. My conservative friends are much more accepting of my liberal views than my liberal friends are of my conservative views. Hell, you yourself are a prime example of personified hate.(edited 3 days ago)CrimsonRage posted...
Annihilated posted...
Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
The Republican nominees in 2016 were more diverse than the Democrats'.
Let that sink in.
Also, remember how Caitlin Jenner even admitted that coming out as a Reublican was harder than coming out as transgender?
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 3 days ago)Turbam posted...
A conservative will strengthen a friendship, by spending time with their friends when everyone is able.
A liberal will strengthen a friendship by clicking the like button.
Source?
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CrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
And vice versa.
I love how people purposely act ignorant that both parties share in this shit behavior.
The "same thing both sides" crowd lost their credibility a long time ago.
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CrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
Fake News: anything that disagrees with their narrative that Trump is the best president ever
Trooth: Anything that pisses off non Trump supporters or makes them look bad
Guarantee if there was a poll saying the opposite (47% of Repubs won't be friends of Hillary supporters, 13% of Dems won't be friends with Trump supporters), Mal would be making excuses for why it isn't a real poll.Annihilated posted...
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Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
That's correct. My conservative friends are much more accepting of my liberal views than my liberal friends are of my conservative views. Hell, you yourself are a prime example of personified hate.
Fuck off :vCrimsonRage posted...
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Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
That's correct. My conservative friends are much more accepting of my liberal views than my liberal friends are of my conservative views. Hell, you yourself are a prime example of personified hate.
Fuck off :v
Way to immediately prove him right lmao
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellDepending on why they support Trump or anyone, i could see a friendship being questioned
Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1CrimsonRage posted...
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Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
That's correct. My conservative friends are much more accepting of my liberal views than my liberal friends are of my conservative views. Hell, you yourself are a prime example of personified hate.
Fuck off :v
I love how welcoming and tolerant you are of othersCrimsonRage posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
Fake News: anything that disagrees with their narrative that Trump is the best president ever
Trooth: Anything that pisses off non Trump supporters or makes them look bad
Guarantee if there was a poll saying the opposite (47% of Repubs won't be friends of Hillary supporters, 13% of Dems won't be friends with Trump supporters), Mal would be making excuses for why it isn't a real poll.
That wouldn't happen because I don't align myself with morally reproachable hypocrites.
Unlike you, it seems.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 3 days ago)UnholyMudcrab posted...
thanosibe posted...
People ignoring reality never had credibility.
CrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
And vice versa.
I love how people purposely act ignorant that both parties share in this shit behavior.
The "same thing both sides" crowd lost their credibility a long time ago.
I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles BukowskiAnnihilated posted...
Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
Using that logic , if you stood up to Hitler you must be an intolerant person.
Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives?Mal_Fet posted...
That wouldn't happen because I don't align myself with morally reproachable hypocrites.
You mean like Trump?
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Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
Using that logic , if you stood up to Hitler you must be an intolerant person.
>Unironically comparing Trump to Hitler
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellKind of dumb to drop friends over that. Regardless of who's the American president, relationships in society can still prevent a corrupt deviant from taking office again. You only achieve that by changing minds and increasing unity, not division...
We certainly have the tools to accomplish that with modern media, but look at how our masses drag their feet over petty social and political competitions. How some of us even fan the flames of discord for personal profit and hide behind corrupted banners of honorable agendas. Many of us are too prone to call for civil war rather than avoiding it. It should be no wonder how a reality TV clown managed to slip into office.
Bite me like one of your French rolls.
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Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
That's correct. My conservative friends are much more accepting of my liberal views than my liberal friends are of my conservative views. Hell, you yourself are a prime example of personified hate.
Fuck off :v
Way to immediately prove him right lmao
I was having the bantz m8Mal_Fet posted...
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Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
That's correct. My conservative friends are much more accepting of my liberal views than my liberal friends are of my conservative views. Hell, you yourself are a prime example of personified hate.
Fuck off :v
Way to immediately prove him right lmao
The ironic thing is I didn't even expect him to say that.I am not a Democrat and I'm not a liberal, but I don't think I could look at the someone the same if they came out as a Trump supporter. Actually, I know I can't because I've done this. To be fair, Hillary supporters made me die inside as well. In my experience, these people just come off as arrogant, overly political shitlords. I shit on religion all the time in this board, but religious people I know day to day aren't half as preachy. Bipartisan politics are the true religion in America.
(edited 3 days ago)Well, that's proof that they're bad and you're side is good.
Does that sound kinda lame?
Conservatives and liberals aren't fundamentally different people.
People, as a general whole, seem to want to be able to define everything as good or bad.
Always wanting to tell some one that they're immoral or stupid...wrong.
As if being wrong is wrong. Everybody is wrong. No person or no side "gets it".
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The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~RatAlso, there's a pretty noticeable difference between just having conservative views and supporting Trump, so again let's not make this a right vs. left thing.hockeybub89 posted...
I am not a Democrat and I'm not a liberal, but I don't think I could look at the someone the same if they came out as a Trump supporter. Actually, I know I can't because I've done this. To be fair, Hillary supporters made me die inside as well. In my experience, these people just come off as arrogant, overly political shitlords. I shit on religion all the time in this board, but religious people I know day to day aren't half as preachy. Bipartisan politics are the true religion in America.
And why you have the shit behavior and reasoning that you do in this thread. Because people can't see past their preferred party's name and mindlessly drone on with their shilling no matter the actual credentials and competency of their party's leaders.
I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles BukowskiLordRazziel posted...
Well, that's proof that they're bad and you're side is good.
Does that sound kinda lame?
I don't immediately assume every Hillary supporter is in favor of stock market fraud, lying about hiding evidence, letting your longtime friends take the fall for a crime you were implicit in, etc.
However, almost half of Democrats assume all Trump supporters are in favor of grabbing women's pussies.
Do you see the difference
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 3 days ago)Mal_Fet posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
Always funny to see which polls are THE TROOTH and which ones are FAKE NEWS according to conservatives.
Fake News: anything that disagrees with their narrative that Trump is the best president ever
Trooth: Anything that pisses off non Trump supporters or makes them look bad
Guarantee if there was a poll saying the opposite (47% of Repubs won't be friends of Hillary supporters, 13% of Dems won't be friends with Trump supporters), Mal would be making excuses for why it isn't a real poll.
That wouldn't happen because I don't align myself with morally reproachable hypocrites.
Unlike you, it seems.
You say that, but every time someone makes a topic about a poll that paints conservatives unfavourably, you make excuses and disbelieve it.
And lol @ the virtue signaling. You're literally aligning yourself with Trump. And who is the morally reproachable hypocrite I am aligned with? And don't say Hillary because I'm not.CrimsonRage posted...
You say that, but every time someone makes a topic about a poll that paints conservatives unfavourably, you make excuses and disbelieve it.
I recall one topic about Trump's approval ratings where I cited evidence that, save for two elections, Republicans have been beating democrats handily, which shouldn't happen if Trump's approval ratings were really as low as those polls showed.
Not all polls are created equal, ya know.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellAnnihilated posted...
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Well, duh, we know that. You're an intolerant person, that's why you're a liberal. It's a trait of the party.
And conservatives are so welcoming, tolerant, and diverse.
That's correct. My conservative friends are much more accepting of my liberal views than my liberal friends are of my conservative views. Hell, you yourself are a prime example of personified hate.
Fuck off :v
Way to immediately prove him right lmao
The ironic thing is I didn't even expect him to say that.
In seriousness, anecdotes are never proof of anything. I myself have been around very intolerant conservatives and most liberals I'm friends or acquaintances with are welcoming individuals. Some liberals may have been intolerant of certain ideas, but conservatives I've met have been intolerant of certain people. What you consider worse depends on your values, I guess. But again, that's an anecdote. You have every right to discard it.
As for myself, I can be friends with a Trump voter. But I don't know if I can be friends with a full-blown MAGA hat "Trump is always right, libcucks BTFO" type of person. So far that type of person is only online but if I ever met one if the wild, I can't promise I can be friendly lol(edited 3 days ago)ThanksUglyGod posted...
Also, there's a pretty noticeable difference between just having conservative views and supporting Trump, so again let's not make this a right vs. left thing.
So much THIS
Also, it's not Republicans with approval polls in the shitter. It's Trump. Vast majority of Americans disapprove of him.
even if I were a woman, I would never want to be my girlfriend - FranklinMal_Fet posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
You say that, but every time someone makes a topic about a poll that paints conservatives unfavourably, you make excuses and disbelieve it.
I recall one topic about Trump's approval ratings where I cited evidence that, save for two elections, Republicans have been beating democrats handily, which shouldn't happen if Trump's approval ratings were really as low as those polls showed.
Not all polls are created equal, ya know.
I'm talking about polls since the election.CrimsonRage posted...
In seriousness, anecdotes are never proof of anything.
Correct, but statistics do.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwellat this point if you still support trump I'd question your ability to function as a personLordRazziel posted...
Well, that's proof that they're bad and you're side is good.
Does that sound kinda lame?
Conservatives and liberals aren't fundamentally different people.
People, as a general whole, seem to want to be able to define everything as good or bad.
Always wanting to tell some one that they're immoral or stupid...wrong.
As if being wrong is wrong. Everybody is wrong. No person or no side "gets it".
Sorry, the Republican Party is on the side of bad, not good. Now more than ever under Trump. Mewling for bipartisanship wont fix this mess, giant douche versus turd sandwich is a stupid way to look at the world, pick a side and fight for something.
M.Mal_Fet posted...
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Well, that's proof that they're bad and you're side is good.
Does that sound kinda lame?
I don't immediately assume every Hillary supporter is in favor of stock market fraud, lying about hiding evidence, letting your longtime friends take the fall for a crime you were implicit in, etc.
However, almost half of Democrats assume all Trump supporters are in favor of grabbing women's pussies.
Do you see the difference
That's good that you don't.
This poll hasn't convinced me that liberals and conservatives are fundamentally different.
So, to me, it seems reasonable to say they would be have in a similar manner.
Maybe I'm wrong, though...
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
So yeah. Also this "tolerant left" meme is extremely overdone and boring and you should be ashamed of yourself for not having moved past it by now.
It's not just a meme when almost half of liberal democrats are so insular that they can't be friends with someone who doesn't vote like they do.
Also, your anecdote about a Trump supporter you know who is also like that doesn't prove the statistics are wrong. It just means he's one of the 13% of petty Republicans.
We'll my issues with the meme are more about the right bitching about the left for claiming to be tolerant when subgroups of them are not while I don't really see any tolerance preaching on either side. I'm not saying you're wrong. If more liberals had circumstances like I do with my neighbors, I'm sure they would have the same sort of feelings I do, provided said neighbors of theirs were like mine. They'd have to stick to their guns and wallow in hypocrisy or give said neighbors credit and admit they have no reason to dislike them after learning of their support of trump. Maybe some aren't willing to do the latter, and they are indeed a problem.
As for the anecdote, I will give you even more credit here. He is the type of person who would be in a petty minority. It's in his nature. I was not citing him as an attempt to discredit your statistic. If it is accurate, it is accurate. I want to say that historically, the victorious side is gracious in defeat, but I don't necessarily believe that would be the case if hillary had won. Granted I'm not a supporter of her. I voted for her as a vote against trump, but by no means did I feel she was a good candidate. She attracted an unruly crowd and another bad candidate took advantage of this by appealing to another unruly crowd. The crowd that lost is more pissed off than the crowd that won. This is to be expected. I'm a Patriots fan. I'd expect to get looks if I wore my hat in Atlanta. Would I have issues with someone wearing a Falcons hat in my neck of the woods? I'll answer that by saying I spent several minutes trying to remember which nfc team was in the super bowl because I'm too fucking stubborn to look it up >_>.
Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/Bullet_Wing posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Very good point. But as mentioned the partisan politics of the US have bred an us vs them mentality between the two parties that keep people judging and entire group by the vocal minority. And most of the time in a group the most vocal are the minority. So the sane party members of each party don't have to scream about internet typos and scoops of ice cream because the founding fathers set up a system to keep corrupt individuals out. How many people that voted for Nixon actually followed him down the rabbit hole? We might know better if there was internet in the 70's.
Also, there's a pretty noticeable difference between just having conservative views and supporting Trump, so again let's not make this a right vs. left thing.
So much THIS
Also, it's not Republicans with approval polls in the shitter. It's Trump. Vast majority of Americans disapprove of him.
I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles BukowskiMal_Fet posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Well, that's proof that they're bad and you're side is good.
Does that sound kinda lame?
I don't immediately assume every Hillary supporter is in favor of stock market fraud, lying about hiding evidence, letting your longtime friends take the fall for a crime you were implicit in, etc.
However, almost half of Democrats assume all Trump supporters are in favor of grabbing women's pussies.
Do you see the difference
At the very least they're in favor of STEALING Supreme Court nominees. I dont want to be friends with anyone who'll vote for someone like Trump for the sake of taking away MY RIGHTFUL VOICE on the Court for the next 40 years. Cue Mal Fet excuse about how the Senate has always refused to appoint SCOTUS nominees, typical Trumpista.
M.If politics affected a person's view of me then they were never my friend in the first place.
I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics.
http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.pngSo why is 47% of people of the opposing ideology to Trump thinking that support of Trump would strain friendships a more interesting story than 25% of his own voterbase thinking the same?
Newsflash: Friendships generally form between like-minded people. I'm not going to say it's not petty to end friendship over political differences in general, but I also don't think its out of the ordinary that learning that a friend supports an ideology (or in this case, a person) you find abhorrent should make you view that person somewhat differently.
I find it ten times as damaging that one in four of Trump's voterbase thinks the same way.Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
LordRazziel posted...
Well, that's proof that they're bad and you're side is good.
Does that sound kinda lame?
Conservatives and liberals aren't fundamentally different people.
People, as a general whole, seem to want to be able to define everything as good or bad.
Always wanting to tell some one that they're immoral or stupid...wrong.
As if being wrong is wrong. Everybody is wrong. No person or no side "gets it".
Sorry, the Republican Party is on the side of bad, not good. Now more than ever under Trump. Mewling for bipartisanship wont fix this mess, giant douche versus turd sandwich is a stupid way to look at the world, pick a side and fight for something.
I must disagree, oh no sir, I must say you're wrong"
Yes, I am a hypocrite.
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Bullet_Wing posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Very good point. But as mentioned the partisan politics of the US have bred an us vs them mentality between the two parties that keep people judging and entire group by the vocal minority. And most of the time in a group the most vocal are the minority. So the sane party members of each party don't have to scream about internet typos and scoops of ice cream because the founding fathers set up a system to keep corrupt individuals out. How many people that voted for Nixon actually followed him down the rabbit hole? We might know better if there was internet in the 70's.
Also, there's a pretty noticeable difference between just having conservative views and supporting Trump, so again let's not make this a right vs. left thing.
So much THIS
Also, it's not Republicans with approval polls in the shitter. It's Trump. Vast majority of Americans disapprove of him.
Have you seen the newspaper articles about things Nixon supporters say? It's almost word for word what Trump supporters are using as defense
even if I were a woman, I would never want to be my girlfriend - Franklin(edited 3 days ago)Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Sorry, the Republican Party is on the side of bad, not good. Now more than ever under Trump.
What horrible actions has Trump taken? Since he's apparently the ultimate bad guy?
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellMalcolm_Caradoc posted...
At the very least they're in favor of STEALING Supreme Court nominees. I dont want to be friends with anyone who'll vote for someone like Trump for the sake of taking away MY RIGHTFUL VOICE on the Court for the next 40 years.
How'd he do that
By nominating a guy with a solid judicial record
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George Orwell(edited 3 days ago)I'm a grown ass man. Why would I want to associate with idiots in my circle of friends? If you are a Trump supporter in July 2017 you are willfully ignorant. You might blame all your problems on brown people too.
I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD.TheBiggerWiggle posted...
I'm a grown ass man. Why would I want to associate with idiots in my circle of friends? If you are a Trump supporter in July 2017 you are willfully ignorant. You might blame all your problems on brown people too.
Literally every other part of this post disproves the first sentence, lol
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.
-George OrwellLiberals are very petty, among other things.
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