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Gun sales continue to drop sharply under Donald Trump presidency.

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UnfairRepresent 57 minutes ago#1
American gun companies have seen sales drop in 2017, a trend that is being blamed on the election of President Donald Trump. With the victory of Trump, who enjoyed the support of the National Rifle Association and opposes gun control legislation, the pressure to buy weapons appears to have subsided.

American Outdoor Brands, formerly known as Smith & Wesson, announced gun revenues were down 48 percent in the second quarter as compared to the same period in 2016. Long gun shipments dropped by 57 percent, while handgun sales saw close to a 35-percent decline.

The NRA is pushing for legislative changes meant to boost the gun market, including by deregulating the sale of silencers. Gun control advocates say this would be a dangerous move, arguing that the wide availability of silencers would make it more difficult for police officers to do their jobs. They also say it could make the tracking of mass shooters more difficult.

American Outdoor Brands recently purchased Gemtech, a manufacturer of silencers. "We view this acquisition as somewhat opportunistic, allowing us to enter the suppressor category prior to the potential favorable changes in legislation and at a time when the market is particularly soft," said James Debney, president of American Outdoor Brands.

John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety, is strongly opposed to the proposed change in regulation.

"With gun sales dropping steeply, it's not surprising the NRA leadership and its allies in Congress want to make it easier for gun companies to sell silencers," stated Feinblatt. "This legislation would put gun company profits over public safety."

The NRA hopes to secure the legislative change with the help of Republicans in Congress and Trump, who received $50 million in support from the pro-gun organization during the 2016 election campaign.

"You came through for me and I'm going to come through for you," Trump said at the NRA national conference after his election victory.

Trump has appointed leading NRA member Susan LaPierre to the board of the U.S. National Park Foundation, according to the Independent. Reports suggest that the appointment could be part of the Trump administration's push for the National Park Foundation to overturn regulations implemented in 2015 to protect predators living in the parks.

Rules that could possibly be targeted include one banning the hunting of bears with bait and another prohibiting the killing of cubs or mother bears with cubs.


Full Article: http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/gun-makers-dealing-%E2%80%98trump-slump%E2%80%99-sales-fall

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I wish the NRA would give me $50 million.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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Were_Wyrm  awake to mic54 minutes ago#2
Trump makes the country a safer place, guns no longer needed!
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Nomadic View  tear this gooby up53 minutes ago#3
People don't feel threatened that their constitutional rights are going to be stripped.
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Phantom_Nook 52 minutes ago#4
Of course. Without a Democrat in charge, the NRA's propaganda that Obama/Hilary will take away their guns is no longer effective.
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eston 51 minutes ago#5
It's funny because idiots spent 8 years terrified that Obama was going to do something he never claimed he was going to do
A_Good_Boy 51 minutes ago#6
Phantom_Nook posted...
Of course. Without a Democrat in charge, the NRA's propaganda that Obama/Hilary will take away their guns is no longer effective.
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Darklit_Minuet 50 minutes ago#7
UnfairRepresent posted...
"With gun sales dropping steeply, it's not surprising the NRA leadership and its allies in Congress want to make it easier for gun companies to sell silencers," stated Feinblatt. "This legislation would put gun company profits over public safety."

Uh...wat

Silencers benefit public safety, they help public gun owners avoid tinnitus
UnfairRepresent 50 minutes ago#8
Phantom_Nook posted...
Of course. Without a Democrat in charge, the NRA's propaganda that Obama/Hilary will take away their guns is no longer effective.

^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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lilORANG 49 minutes ago#9
creativerealms 49 minutes ago#10
The fear of guns being taken away (even though they never will be) is a huge sales booster for gun companies.
No sig.
DreadedWave 49 minutes ago#11
Phantom_Nook posted...
Of course. Without a Democrat in charge, the NRA's propaganda that Obama/Hilary will take away their guns is no longer effective.

Now they're trying to tell you that liberals are gonna murder you.
AlephZero 48 minutes ago#12
I have no idea why anyone thought Democrats wanted to ban guns when a gun ban is in their official party platform still today.
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Tmaster148 46 minutes ago#13
Darklit_Minuet posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
"With gun sales dropping steeply, it's not surprising the NRA leadership and its allies in Congress want to make it easier for gun companies to sell silencers," stated Feinblatt. "This legislation would put gun company profits over public safety."

Uh...wat

Silencers benefit public safety, they help public gun owners avoid tinnitus


That's not public safety. 

While silencers are good for hearing protection for the shooter, you can also get the same effect by putting on a proper headset to reduce the noise.
Darkman124 46 minutes ago#14
AlephZero posted...
I have no idea why anyone thought Democrats wanted to ban guns when a gun ban is in their official party platform still today.


source pls
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Alucard188 46 minutes ago#15
UnfairRepresent posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Of course. Without a Democrat in charge, the NRA's propaganda that Obama/Hilary will take away their guns is no longer effective.



The level of fear rhetoric in this video is pretty scary, especially because there are people who believe this type of s***.
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Melonfarms 44 minutes ago#16
Gun sales have been on the decline for a while. Guns are expensive and people don't have as much expendable income anymore. 
I went to a gun show about a year ago and a lot of the vendors where visibly frustrated and mentioned they weren't selling anything.
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AlephZero 43 minutes ago#17
Darkman124 posted...
AlephZero posted...
I have no idea why anyone thought Democrats wanted to ban guns when a gun ban is in their official party platform still today.


source pls

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform#gun-violence

I look forward to hearing how an "assault weapons" ban isn't actually a ban.
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Darkman124 42 minutes ago#18
AlephZero posted...

I look forward to hearing how an "assault weapons" ban isn't actually a ban.


define gun pls
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Form 4 is a bit of a confusing mess. 
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/form-4-application-tax-paid-transfer-and-registration-firearm-atf-form-53204/download

Replacing the bulk of it with a simpler "Here's $200, gimme a suppressor tax-stamp" process would be better, yes.
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--kresnik-- 38 minutes ago#20
I'm not surprised at all. It's kind of a tough call for the gun industry, because they can work without the threats and harassment from the left, but they will have less sales. Guns were readily available under obama and bullets were practically a dime a dozen.

I almost wondered whether obama wanted that to happen? The Great Divider sold more guns than he even knew. That's what fearmongering getting gets you. Part of the reason people buy guns in those situations is not because of the laws proposed, but as protection from an increasingly censoring and controlling government. The American people are an army, ourselves.
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Medz1206 37 minutes ago#21
voldothegr8 36 minutes ago#22
Sweet, less demand will mean reasonable prices again.
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Medz1206 posted...
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AlephZero 35 minutes ago#24
Medz1206 posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyTkfJvUUAE-dnt.jpg

That face you make when obama pushed an assault weapons ban every opportunity he got in his second term
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Melonfarms 26 minutes ago#25
--kresnik-- posted...
bullets were practically a dime a dozen.


I don't know about this. .22LR went from around $20 for a box of 500 to $50 for the same box during his presidency. It's one reason I stopped shooting so much. Ammo prices went way up.
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fenderbender321 26 minutes ago#26
Are guns cheap now?
God bless you
--kresnik-- 20 minutes ago#27
Melonfarms posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
bullets were practically a dime a dozen.


I don't know about this. .22LR went from around $20 for a box of 500 to $50 for the same box during his presidency. It's one reason I stopped shooting so much. Ammo prices went way up.

I forgot to mention that some gun shows would offer nice deals, but never the stores.
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metralo 20 minutes ago#28
AlephZero posted...
Medz1206 posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyTkfJvUUAE-dnt.jpg

That face you make when obama pushed an assault weapons ban every opportunity he got in his second term


oh no not the assault bans

its bad enough they won't let an average citizen have a rocket launcher. now they don't want us to have military grade weapons??????? how am i supposed to protect my 4 bedroom, million dollar house from all of the bad guys that I've made up in my mind?
ThePrinceFish 19 minutes ago#29
metralo posted...
AlephZero posted...
Medz1206 posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyTkfJvUUAE-dnt.jpg

That face you make when obama pushed an assault weapons ban every opportunity he got in his second term


oh no not the assault bans

its bad enough they won't let an average citizen have a rocket launcher. now they don't want us to have military grade weapons??????? how am i supposed to protect my 4 bedroom, million dollar house from all of the bad guys that I've made up in my mind?

Oddly enough "assault weapon ban" has absolutely nothing to do at all with "military grade weapons", but continue babbling with your metralo bulls***.
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AlephZero 18 minutes ago#30
metralo posted...
AlephZero posted...
Medz1206 posted...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyTkfJvUUAE-dnt.jpg

That face you make when obama pushed an assault weapons ban every opportunity he got in his second term


oh no not the assault bans

its bad enough they won't let an average citizen have a rocket launcher. now they don't want us to have military grade weapons??????? how am i supposed to protect my 4 bedroom, million dollar house from all of the bad guys that I've made up in my mind?

you can buy a rocket launcher

im not aware of any military that uses the AR-15, not sure why you're calling it "military grade"
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AlephZero posted...
im not aware of any military that uses the AR-15, not sure why you're calling it "military grade"

This is an "assault rifle":
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Typical-AR-15-1024x301.jpg
This is not:
https://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/images/2015new/longguns/large/78190.jpg

They're both functionally identical .223 rifles. If anything, the wooden one is more dangerous for having a scope.
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