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E32005 17 hours ago#1
war.

Of course Republican cowards and Trump will do nothing since they suck Putins babushka
Doom_Art 17 hours ago#2
They literally attacked someone with a chemical weapon on British soil in a public area

You are correct in that it's an act of war

That said, you can't really declare war on Russia
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Paper_Okami 17 hours ago#3
Yeah i don't think declaring war with another country, let alone one as powerful as Russia is in the best interest of America.
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MakoReizei 17 hours ago#4
what did Trump do to Britain?
prince_leo 17 hours ago#5
it's such a lose/lose situation and I don't see it getting better anytime soon
E32005 17 hours ago#6
Paper_Okami posted...
Yeah i don't think declaring war with another country, let alone one as powerful as Russia is in the best interest of America.

sure it is. trump talks big, thinks he has a big dick with N. Korea...lets see if its real. call out Russia, Trump.
NINExATExSEVEN 17 hours ago#7
So what happened in Britain?
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E32005 17 hours ago#8
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what happened in Britain?

LONDON — Relations between Britain and Russia plunged Wednesday to a chill not seen since the Cold War as Prime Minister Theresa May expelled 23 diplomats, severed high-level contacts and vowed both open and covert action against Kremlin meddling after the poisoning of a former spy.
Russia said it would respond soon to what it called Britain's "crude" and "hostile" actions. While May pledged to disrupt Russian espionage and "hostile state activity," she gave few details about how hard Britain would hit Russian politicians and oligarchs where it really hurts — in their wallets. 
"Expelling diplomats is a kind of a standard response," said Natasha Kuhrt, a Russia expert at King's College London. "I'm not sure it's going to make Moscow stand up and think." 
May told the House of Commons that 23 Russian diplomats who have been identified as undeclared intelligence officers have a week to leave Britain.
"This will be the single biggest expulsion for over 30 years," May said, adding that it would "fundamentally degrade Russian intelligence capability in the U.K. for years to come." 
May spoke after Moscow ignored a midnight deadline to explain how the nerve agent Novichok, developed by the Soviet Union, was used against Sergei Skripal, an ex-Russian agent convicted of spying for Britain, and his daughter, Yulia. They remain in critical condition in a hospital in Salisbury, southwestern England, after being found unconscious on March 4. 
May said "there is no alternative conclusion other than that the Russian state was culpable for the attempted murder of Mr. Skripal and his daughter."
Doom_Art 17 hours ago#9
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what happened in Britain?

I wonder if we'll see this fella defending Russia. Wouldn't shock me. 

"Well if Russia wants to assassinate someone in a public place with a chemical weapon, that's their business"
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Cheater87 17 hours ago#10
How many countries would declare war on the US for election meddling?
shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#11
Cheater87 posted...
How many countries would declare war on the US for election meddling?

We’re talking about a public assassination here.
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zDonKEY_K0ngz 17 hours ago#12
All of NATO needs to collectively sanction the shit out of them and freeze the assets of all the Russian oligarch's foreign bank accounts. Once the oligarchs start significantly losing their precious money they will turn on Putin in a heartbeat.
E32005 17 hours ago#13
Cheater87 posted...
How many countries would declare war on the US for election meddling?

shut the fuck up
E32005 17 hours ago#14
zDonKEY_K0ngz posted...
All of NATO needs to collectively sanction the shit out of them and freeze the assets of all the Russian oligarch's foreign bank accounts. Once the oligarchs start significantly losing their precious money they will turn on Putin in a heartbeat.

unfortunately NATO has no balls. we cant count on them to do anything.
zDonKEY_K0ngz 17 hours ago#15
E32005 posted...
zDonKEY_K0ngz posted...
All of NATO needs to collectively sanction the shit out of them and freeze the assets of all the Russian oligarch's foreign bank accounts. Once the oligarchs start significantly losing their precious money they will turn on Putin in a heartbeat.

unfortunately NATO has no balls. we cant count on them to do anything.


more like we can't really count on ourselves with the Trump regime being completely at their knees to Putin
Paper_Okami 17 hours ago#16
E32005 posted...
sure it is. trump talks big, thinks he has a big dick with N. Korea...lets see if its real. call out Russia, Trump.


yes certainly millions of lives lost is worth this, great logic.
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NINExATExSEVEN 17 hours ago#18
So what I'm getting from this is that Russia attempted assassinating a British spy on Russian soil and Theresa May got angry and is expelling all Russian diplomats?
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E32005 17 hours ago#19
zDonKEY_K0ngz posted...
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unfortunately NATO has no balls. we cant count on them to do anything.


more like we can't really count on ourselves with the Trump regime being completely at their knees to Putin

that certainly makes it worse.
shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#20
Paper_Okami posted...
E32005 posted...
sure it is. trump talks big, thinks he has a big dick with N. Korea...lets see if its real. call out Russia, Trump.


yes certainly millions of lives lost is worth this, great logic.

You realize there are other steps besides killing millions of people and declaring a massive war, right?

No?

Oh shit, maybe time to step back and listen more.
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Doom_Art 17 hours ago#21
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what I'm getting from this is that Russia attempted assassinating a British spy on Russian soil and Theresa May got angry and is expelling all Russian diplomats?

Attempted assassinating a former spy on British soil with a deadly nerve gas that ended up affecting 200+ people
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E32005 17 hours ago#22
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yes certainly millions of lives lost is worth this, great logic.

You realize there are other steps besides killing millions of people and declaring a massive war, right?

No?

Oh shit, maybe time to step back and listen more.

he's the definition of a strawman
DavidWong 17 hours ago#23
These are very interesting times we're in now. It feels like Russia, the US and North Korea are all waiting for each other to make the first move, and Russia has the balls to push and prod.
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ehhwhatever 17 hours ago#24
more news about end of the world coming. I wish we could get rid of nukes because they are just for genocide/mass murder.
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Doom_Art 17 hours ago#25
DavidWong posted...
These are very interesting times we're in now. It feels like Russia, the US and North Korea are all waiting for each other to make the first move, and Russia has the balls to push and prod.

tbh the moves from russia are more out of desperation and a desire to project strength than any sort of genuine power
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zDonKEY_K0ngz 17 hours ago#26
Paper_Okami posted...
E32005 posted...
sure it is. trump talks big, thinks he has a big dick with N. Korea...lets see if its real. call out Russia, Trump.


yes certainly millions of lives lost is worth this, great logic.


lol at anyone who thinks there will be an actual war over this. even if NATO brought on the toughest economic sanctions possible and expelled every single Russian diplomat from their respective countries, russia still wouldn't initiate a war. they are masters at posturing and appearing tough but with an economy barely the size of New York City's, they can and will be brought to their knees if the right cards are played by NATO.
Paper_Okami 17 hours ago#27
shockthemonkey posted...
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yes certainly millions of lives lost is worth this, great logic.

You realize there are other steps besides killing millions of people and declaring a massive war, right?

No?

Oh shit, maybe time to step back and listen more.


Why even declare war then. What the fuck was the point of this topic?
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dreamvoid 17 hours ago#28
another russian enemy was found dead after Skripal was poisoned by the name of Nikolai Glushkov. did they ever confirm the cause?
Hexenherz 17 hours ago#29
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what I'm getting from this is that Russia attempted assassinating a British spy on Russian soil and Theresa May got angry and is expelling all Russian diplomats?

I'm trying this thing out where I try not to get involved negatively online but it's not really working out that well and it's because of stuff like this. 

I mean you got literally every possible fact wrong.
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shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#30
Paper_Okami posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
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You realize there are other steps besides killing millions of people and declaring a massive war, right?

No?

Oh shit, maybe time to step back and listen more.


Why even declare war then. What the fuck was the point of this topic?

...definitely time to step back and listen more
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Doom_Art 17 hours ago#31
Hexenherz posted...
I mean you got literally every possible fact wrong.

I mean he probably gets his news from 

*ahem*

disreputable sources
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Parappa09 17 hours ago#32
let's not bullshit, the UK is a weak as fuck country right now

we're pulling out of the EU thus losing confidence with our european allies, the US government seems to be in chaos and the executive branch are close with putin, our PM seems to be under threat ever few months of being ousted as leader and the other superpowers of the world aren't exactly concerned over this
NINExATExSEVEN 17 hours ago#33
Doom_Art posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what I'm getting from this is that Russia attempted assassinating a British spy on Russian soil and Theresa May got angry and is expelling all Russian diplomats?

Attempted assassinating a former spy on British soil with a deadly nerve gas that ended up affecting 200+ people


Ohhhhh, yeaaa, that's fucked up.
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shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#34
Parappa09 posted...
let's not bullshit, the UK is a weak as fuck country right now

we're pulling out of the EU thus losing confidence with our european allies, the US government seems to be in chaos and the executive branch are close with putin, our PM seems to be under threat ever few months of being ousted as leader and the other superpowers of the world aren't exactly concerned over this

Yeah Russia is striking while others are down and leadership is divided. A weakening EU and NATO benefits Russia the most.
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Paper_Okami 17 hours ago#35
shockthemonkey posted...
Oh shit, maybe time to step back and listen more.


okay explain to me, then explain why declaring war on one of the most powerful countries is a fucking good idea.
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shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#36
Paper_Okami posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Oh shit, maybe time to step back and listen more.


okay explain to me, then explain why declaring war on one of the most powerful countries is a fucking good idea.

No one has said that we should declare war on Russia
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Paper_Okami 17 hours ago#37
shockthemonkey posted...
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okay explain to me, then explain why declaring war on one of the most powerful countries is a fucking good idea.

No one has said that we should declare war on Russia


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Tmaster148 17 hours ago#38
UnfairRepresent posted...
The US, UK and Trump will all not do a thing as usual


The UK is doing something.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43402506
shockthemonkey posted...
Parappa09 posted...
let's not bullshit, the UK is a weak as fuck country right now

we're pulling out of the EU thus losing confidence with our european allies, the US government seems to be in chaos and the executive branch are close with putin, our PM seems to be under threat ever few months of being ousted as leader and the other superpowers of the world aren't exactly concerned over this

Yeah Russia is striking while others are down and leadership is divided. A weakening EU and NATO benefits Russia the most.

Russia have played their hand brilliantly.

All their enemies are destroying themselves and all Russia has to do is shout encouragement and occasionally poke them
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Hexenherz 17 hours ago#40
Doom_Art posted...
Hexenherz posted...
I mean you got literally every possible fact wrong.

I mean he probably gets his news from 

*ahem*

disreputable sources

This makes me really want to look up what they're saying on RT but eff RT so I guess I'll never know.
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zDonKEY_K0ngz 17 hours ago#41
i love when i hear people say "but there's nothing we can do to russia!!!" whenever something like this happens

everyone is aware that the sanctions we implemented on them after the Crimea invasion have basically decimated their economy, right? this is a huge reason why russia pushed so hard to get Trump elected since Clinton would've been even harder on Russia than Obama was and they literally can't survive much more additional devastation to their economy.

this is proof that an economic war is the most effective way to combat them that sanctions really do work as intended.
E32005 17 hours ago#42
zDonKEY_K0ngz posted...
i love when i hear people say "but there's nothing we can do to russia!!!" whenever something like this happens

everyone is aware that the sanctions we implemented on them after the Crimea invasion have basically decimated their economy, right? this is a huge reason why russia pushed so hard to get Trump elected since Clinton would've been even harder on Russia than Obama was and they literally can't survive much more additional devastation to their economy.

this is proof that an economic war is the most effective way to combat them that sanctions really do work as intended.

shhhhh. trumpeters dont want truth.
*US is in tatters*
*UK is being hit with chemical weapons as the nation is in ruins*
*UN is falling apart*
*EU is falling apart*
*infighting everywhere*

"This is proof that sanctions work and Russia is harmless gais"

Christ If this is "working" i want to see what happens it doesn't work.
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shockthemonkey 17 hours ago#44
Paper_Okami posted...
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No one has said that we should declare war on Russia


post number 6

Oh you’re just fucking with me
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zDonKEY_K0ngz 17 hours ago#45
UnfairRepresent posted...
*US is in tatters*
*UK is being hit with chemical weapons as the nation is in ruins*
*UN is falling apart*
*EU is falling apart*
*infighting everywhere*

"This is proof that sanctions work and Russia is harmless gais"

Christ If this is "working" i want to see what happens it doesn't work.


yeah the point basically flew over your head
Paper_Okami 17 hours ago#46
shockthemonkey posted...
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post number 6

Oh you’re just fucking with me


what is inference
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Funkydog  question him ALWAYS17 hours ago#47
Parappa09 posted...
let's not bullshit, the UK is a weak as fuck country right now

we're pulling out of the EU thus losing confidence with our european allies, the US government seems to be in chaos and the executive branch are close with putin, our PM seems to be under threat ever few months of being ousted as leader and the other superpowers of the world aren't exactly concerned over this

Tbh, it is probably part of why she went for such a strong response. To do anything else would be just another noose around her neck at this point. 

But the chaos is exactly why Russia is acting so brazenly and telling everyone to go fuck themselves. Trump's refusal to sign sanctions only adds to their belief they can do as they please and little will be done to stop them, and the west needs to unite in telling Russia to stop. Or they will keep on acting as they have in recent years with regards to invading and indiscriminate killing/meddling.
Zeeak4444 17 hours ago#48
Funkydog posted...
Parappa09 posted...
let's not bullshit, the UK is a weak as fuck country right now

we're pulling out of the EU thus losing confidence with our european allies, the US government seems to be in chaos and the executive branch are close with putin, our PM seems to be under threat ever few months of being ousted as leader and the other superpowers of the world aren't exactly concerned over this

Tbh, it is probably part of why she went for such a strong response. To do anything else would be just another noose around her neck at this point. 

But the chaos is exactly why Russia is acting so brazenly and telling everyone to go fuck themselves. Trump's refusal to sign sanctions only adds to their belief they can do as they please and little will be done to stop them, and the west needs to unite in telling Russia to stop. Or they will keep on acting as they have in recent years with regards to invading and indiscriminate killing/meddling.


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Parappa09 17 hours ago#49
Funkydog posted...
the west needs to unite in telling Russia to stop

this is what the UK needs the most, multilateral international pressure against russia as a direct result of what they did

we don't have many close friends these days :(
E32005 17 hours ago#50
Parappa09 posted...
Funkydog posted...
the west needs to unite in telling Russia to stop

this is what the UK needs the most, multilateral international pressure against russia as a direct result of what they did

we don't have many close friends these days :(

you wont get it from Trump. Ironic, considering republicans hated Russia under Obama....hmmmm
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    Funkydog  question him ALWAYS17 hours ago#51
    Parappa09 posted...
    Funkydog posted...
    the west needs to unite in telling Russia to stop

    this is what the UK needs the most, multilateral international pressure against russia as a direct result of what they did

    we don't have many close friends these days :(


    That isolationism isn't looking so good for us now :/
    shockthemonkey 16 hours ago#52
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    this is what the UK needs the most, multilateral international pressure against russia as a direct result of what they did

    we don't have many close friends these days :(


    That isolationism isn't looking so good for us now :/

    Didn’t ever really look that good tbh
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    Hexenherz 16 hours ago#53
    It's OK guys trump is gonna make the american nerve agent production industry great again
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    darkjedilink 16 hours ago#54
    NINExATExSEVEN posted...
    So what I'm getting from this is that Russia attempted assassinating a British spy on Russian soil and Theresa May got angry and is expelling all Russian diplomats?

    Yes. And somehow, TC thinks that means America needs to go to war.

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    Doom_Art 16 hours ago#55
    darkjedilink posted...
    Yes. And somehow, TC thinks that means America needs to go to war.

    You're aware that's not what happened right
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    NibeIungsnarf 16 hours ago#56
    Paper_Okami posted...
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    Oh you’re just fucking with me


    what is inference

    How is calling someone out an inference to declare war on them?

    How does your brain work?
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    Paper_Okami 12 hours ago#58
    NibeIungsnarf posted...
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    what is inference

    How is calling someone out an inference to declare war on them?

    How does your brain work?


    read the whole damn post

    He was responding to my post. If he was being sarcastic well i don't know, pretty damn hard to tell online.
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    spudger 4 minutes ago#59
    Trump is shit
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