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Thursday, March 15, 2018

Is anyone else worried about our relationship with Russia after Trump goes away?

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Especially if he's impeached over Russia shenanigans. I can't imagine they're going to be like "oh shucks you got us guys, good game!"

I know they're not stupid enough to directly attack us, but I could see them stepping up their "interfere with everything we possibly can" game after their puppet is legally outed.

Anyone else or am I worrying too much?
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not at all, quite the opposite. it will be nice to have a leader who actually stands up to them instead of letting them walk all over us like a bitch
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DrizztLink 1 day ago#3
Yeah, they'll be pretty upset their little bitch boy got lost.
Tmaster148 1 day ago#4
Not really. It's not like Russia thinks highly of us now.
s0nicfan 1 day ago#5
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
after their puppet is legally outed.


"Any Day Now"™

The bigger question will be who Democrats blame for their next loss if Russia isn't there for them to deflect from their own inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country. Will they stick to "white people don't know what it means to be poor" or will they actually stop being assholes?
"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
I'm worried about our relationship regardless of if he's here or not. They've only been getting bolder and shittier over the past five years
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byron 1 day ago#7
s0nicfan posted...
deflect from their own inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country

#irony
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#8
byron posted...
s0nicfan posted...
deflect from their own inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country

#irony


"White people don't know what its like to be poor"
"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
byron 1 day ago#9
s0nicfan posted...
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#irony


"White people don't know what its like to be poor"

That's the official stance of the Democrats?

Woah it's almost like you're intentionally being misleading 🤔
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#10
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"White people don't know what its like to be poor"

That's the official stance of the Democrats?

Woah it's almost like you're intentionally being misleading 🤔


So wait, are we judging each party exclusively by the official stance they're putting forth now, and not the words they say? I just want clarification on that for the next time you try to claim Trump tweeting something is evidence that an entire political party is morally bankrupt.
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Darkman124 1 day ago#12
s0nicfan posted...

The bigger question will be who Democrats blame for their next loss


dems' next loss will be their inabiltiy to pass a bill that fully neuters the tax cuts and feeds them back into UHC

it won't be at the polls

"2021 budgetary reform act seeks to completely remove all relics of trump presidency, introduce UHC, raise taxes on the rich. fails by 1 vote"
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gunplagirl 1 day ago#13
Tmaster148 posted...
Not really. It's not like Russia thinks highly of us now.

This, and
ultimate reaver posted...
I'm worried about our relationship regardless of if he's here or not. They've only been getting bolder and shittier over the past five years

This, the only reason they did what they did was because of growing distrust and the fact they had nothing to lose but everything to gain in doing so.
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Bio1590  thinks i work at mcd1 day ago#14
ultimate reaver posted...
I'm worried about our relationship regardless of if he's here or not. They've only been getting bolder and shittier over the past five years

Exactly.

They threatened to attack the US military yesterday (or the day before) and their response to the UK accusing them of that poisoning was literally just "You shouldn't threaten a nuclear power".
byron 1 day ago#15
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That's the official stance of the Democrats?

Woah it's almost like you're intentionally being misleading 🤔


So wait, are we judging each party exclusively by the official stance they're putting forth now, and not the words they say? I just want clarification on that for the next time you try to claim Trump tweeting something is evidence that an entire political party is morally bankrupt.

Can you name a Democrat other than Bernie Sanders who said or agreed with that quote? 

It's a bit different comparing the head of the republican party with someone who didn't even get the democratic nomination for president don't you think? 

byron posted...
Woah it's almost like you're intentionally being misleading 🤔
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a new cold war is upon us.

it wouldn't surprise me that, after trump gets ousted, the us starts paying russia back in full. wonder how much being an American troll on Russian forums would pay.
s0nicfan 1 day ago#17
byron posted...
Can you name a Democrat other than Bernie Sanders who said or agreed with that quote? 

It's a bit different comparing the head of the republican party with someone who didn't even get the democratic nomination for president don't you think?


If we ignore Bernie, we also have:
"Basket of Deplorables"
"We're going to put a lot of coal companies and coal miners out of business"

How about directly shitting on roughly 1/4 of the country and telling a large swath of people worried about their jobs that you're aiming to put them out of work? Is that enough?
"History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
Darkman124 1 day ago#18
s0nicfan posted...
How about directly s***ting on roughly 1/4 of the country and telling a large swath of people worried about their jobs that you're aiming to put them out of work? Is that enough?


how many people do you think work in the coal industry
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byron 1 day ago#20
s0nicfan posted...
byron posted...
Can you name a Democrat other than Bernie Sanders who said or agreed with that quote? 

It's a bit different comparing the head of the republican party with someone who didn't even get the democratic nomination for president don't you think?


If we ignore Bernie, we also have:
"Basket of Deplorables"
"We're going to put a lot of coal companies and coal miners out of business"

How about directly shitting on roughly 1/4 of the country and telling a large swath of people worried about their jobs that you're aiming to put them out of work? Is that enough?

byron posted...
Woah it's almost like you're intentionally being misleading 🤔
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#21
Darkman124 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
How about directly s***ting on roughly 1/4 of the country and telling a large swath of people worried about their jobs that you're aiming to put them out of work? Is that enough?


how many people do you think work in the coal industry


I'm highlighting that Democrats have a problem with openly shitting on subsets of the population. Trump openly shits on people, too, but they're not citizens. If you go back to the actual general election, Trump attacked a lot of individuals but he NEVER ONCE attacked the voters. Hillary did.

I'm not saying Trump is perfect, nor am I saying republicans have every policy right by a longshot, but Democrats need to get off their "we're objectively right in all areas and the people who disagree are subhumans" kick because it's incredibly destructive. I voted for Kerry. I voted for Obama twice. I agree with about half of Dem's major social policies, but their attitude is killing me.

The fact that you have posters like byron that will absolutely refuse to even engage with their own party's shitty attitude is proof enough.
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byron 1 day ago#22
s0nicfan posted...
Trump openly shits on people, too, but they're not citizens.

Didn't he call Democrats treasonous?

Also

s0nicfan posted...

The fact that you have posters like byron that will absolutely refuse to even engage with their own party's shitty attitude is proof enough.

#irony
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#23
byron posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Trump openly shits on people, too, but they're not citizens.

Didn't he call Democrats treasonous?

Also

s0nicfan posted...

The fact that you have posters like byron that will absolutely refuse to even engage with their own party's shitty attitude is proof enough.

#irony


Funny that you claim "irony" immediately after a post when I openly admit that trump has a shitty attitude. One of us (me) has no problem saying republicans sometimes say shitty things. One of us (you) continues to pretend they don't.
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Darkman124 1 day ago#24
s0nicfan posted...
Trump openly s***s on people, too, but they're not citizens. If you go back to the actual general election, Trump attacked a lot of individuals but he NEVER ONCE attacked the voters. Hillary did.


i feel like you and i had this discussion a couple months ago

just getting a really strong sense of deja vu
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#25
Darkman124 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Trump openly s***s on people, too, but they're not citizens. If you go back to the actual general election, Trump attacked a lot of individuals but he NEVER ONCE attacked the voters. Hillary did.


i feel like you and i had this discussion a couple months ago


We may have. I specifically said general election because during the primary in... I think it was Chicago?... Trump said people supporting Ben Carson were stupid. I said back then I thought it was a bad move on his part, and I'll say it now. You may have been the one to find the Carson quote.

In the GE though when it really mattered, he exclusively stuck with a message of "I want ALL the citizens of our country to succeed" and his opposition divided people into buckets, rated each on how important their issues were, and told some of them to fuck off.
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Caution999 1 day ago#26
Giant_Aspirin posted...
not at all, quite the opposite. it will be nice to have a leader who actually stands up to them instead of letting them walk all over us like a bitch


Wish you had the same attitude about radical Islamic terrorists.
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byron 1 day ago#27
s0nicfan posted...
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Didn't he call Democrats treasonous?

Also

s0nicfan posted...
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#irony


Funny that you claim "irony" immediately after a post when I openly admit that trump has a shitty attitude. One of us (me) has no problem saying republicans sometimes say shitty things. One of us (you) continues to pretend they don't.

You just said he doesn't shit on citizens but he called democrats treasonous. One of us (me) isn't spreading fake news. One of us (you) is spreading fake news.

Also where did I say democrats don't sometimes say shitty things?
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#28
byron posted...
You just said he doesn't shit on citizens but he called democrats treasonous. One of us (me) isn't spreading fake news. One of us (you) is spreading fake news.

Also where did I say democrats don't sometimes say shitty things?


Fake news is taking a joke told as a joke where people laughed after the joke, copying a subset of the text without context, and then claiming Trump called democrats treasonous. Seriously... did you even watch the SOTU or are you just parroting something CNN told you?

But to your second point, you've deflected from every quote I've provided where a dem told a subset of the country that they didn't matter, when my entire point is that dems have a problem with the "inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person". Are you ceding this point, or are you going to go back to pretending that dems have never done that?
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Kolibri X 1 day ago#29
Russia is pretty low on my things to worry about list.
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byron 1 day ago#30
s0nicfan posted...
byron posted...
You just said he doesn't shit on citizens but he called democrats treasonous. One of us (me) isn't spreading fake news. One of us (you) is spreading fake news.

Also where did I say democrats don't sometimes say shitty things?


Fake news is taking a joke told as a joke where people laughed after the joke, copying a subset of the text without context, and then claiming Trump called democrats treasonous. Seriously... did you even watch the SOTU or are you just parroting something CNN told you?

Trump said 

They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'treasonous.' I mean, Yeah, I guess why not? Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly didn't seem to love our country that much."


What a funny joke! He said that after the state of the union.

Saying democrats don't love America and are treasonous is shitting on a lot of the country! 

s0nicfan posted...
Are you ceding this point, or are you going to go back to pretending that dems have never done that?

Where did I say democrats haven't said shitty things? You've posted quotes by Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and all I've said is those quotes aren't the official stance of Democratic party and when I said that you deflected to Donald Trump 
Very sad. And as soon as I post a quote by Trump you whine "it was just a joke!!1!1!"
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#31
byron posted...
Trump said 

They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'treasonous.' I mean, Yeah, I guess why not? Can we call that treason? Why not? I mean they certainly didn't seem to love our country that much."

What a funny joke! He said that after the state of the union.

Saying democrats don't love America and are treasonous is shitting on a lot of the country!


From CNN, of all sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/05/politics/donald-trump-democrats-treasonous/index.html

"They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'Treasonous.' I mean, yeah, I guess, why not," he said to laughter.


But continue to push a false narrative because it lets you convince yourself that your party doesn't have a problem.
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Caution999 1 day ago#32
Kolibri X posted...
Russia is pretty low on my things to worry about list.


Seriously.

Remember when the left laughed their ass off at Mitt Romney when he warned about the Russians? 

1. Our economy
2. Getting people jobs
3. Middle East Issues
4. North Korea
5. Stock Market
6. Mental health

90001. Russia
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byron 1 day ago#33
s0nicfan posted...

But continue to push a false narrative because it lets you convince yourself that your party doesn't have a problem.

Because people laughed that makes it okay? Lmao what a load of bullshit. 

byron posted...
Where did I say democrats haven't said shitty things? You've posted quotes by Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and all I've said is those quotes aren't the official stance of Democratic party and when I said that you deflected to Donald Trump.
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#34
This whole exchange started because you seemed to take issue with my very first post. Your reply linked below for reference. Do you agree or disagree that Democrats have an inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country? Because you accused me of "deflecting to trump" when you were the very first person in this topic to deflect to republicans because you weren't comfortable talking about democrats.

byron posted...
s0nicfan posted...
deflect from their own inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country

#irony
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byron 1 day ago#35
s0nicfan posted...
This whole exchange started because you seemed to take issue with my very first post. Your reply linked below for reference. Do you agree or disagree that Democrats have an inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country?

byron posted...
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#irony

Oh so you can't respond to my last post? 

Your only support for that sentence were quotes by someone who failed to get the democratic party nomination and someone who lost to an orange reality TV star. I said those quotes weren't the official stances of the democratic party. Then you deflected to Trump.
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#36
And there you go deflecting again, because agreeing or disagreeing with my first post in this topic makes you uncomfortable, so you'd rather talk about Trump because that's a nice comfort blanket to wrap yourself in.

Do you agree or disagree that Democrats have an inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country?
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byron 1 day ago#37
s0nicfan posted...
And there you go deflecting again, because agreeing or disagreeing with my first post in this topic makes you uncomfortable, so you'd rather talk about Trump because that's a nice comfort blanket to wrap yourself in.

Do you agree or disagree that Democrats have an inability to engage with the very real needs of the average person in most of the country?

Lmao! You're accusing me of deflecting to Trump when you did that exact same thing in this topic. Lol.

I said your post is ironic because Republicans and democrats both have struggles engaging with the needs of the average person in most of the country but you pretend it's only democrats because you're blind with partisan rage.
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#38
byron posted...
I said your post is ironic because Republicans and democrats both have struggles engaging with the needs of the average person in most of the country but you pretend it's only democrats because you're blind with partisan rage.


AND THERE IT IS folks.

I completely agree. I hope Democrats can get their shit together in the future. Have a nice day.
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s0nicfan posted...
byron posted...
I said your post is ironic because Republicans and democrats both have struggles engaging with the needs of the average person in most of the country but you pretend it's only democrats because you're blind with partisan rage.


AND THERE IT IS folks.

I completely agree. I hope Democrats can get their shit together in the future. Have a nice day.

Can you agree that both sides need to get their shit together when it comes to that?
byron 1 day ago#40
s0nicfan posted...
byron posted...
I said your post is ironic because Republicans and democrats both have struggles engaging with the needs of the average person in most of the country but you pretend it's only democrats because you're blind with partisan rage.


AND THERE IT IS folks.

I completely agree. I hope Democrats can get their shit together in the future. Have a nice day.

But that has nothing to do with the quotes you posted which was just parroting breitbart comment sections from shit that's like 2 years old. 

byron posted...
you're blind with partisan rage.
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#41
Bullet_Wing posted...
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AND THERE IT IS folks.

I completely agree. I hope Democrats can get their shit together in the future. Have a nice day.

Can you agree that both sides need to get their shit together when it comes to that?


Absolutely.
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#42
byron posted...
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AND THERE IT IS folks.

I completely agree. I hope Democrats can get their shit together in the future. Have a nice day.

But that has nothing to do with the quotes you posted which was just parroting breitbart comment sections from shit that's like 2 years old. 

byron posted...
you're blind with partisan rage.


Oh Byron, you were so SO close to being a reasonable person, and then you had to go fuck it up.
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byron 1 day ago#43
s0nicfan posted...
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But that has nothing to do with the quotes you posted which was just parroting breitbart comment sections from shit that's like 2 years old. 

byron posted...
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Oh Byron, you were so SO close to being a reasonable person, and then you had to go fuck it up.

Your opinion means less than nothing lmao
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tommybel89 1 day ago#44
Imagine being a lemming that believes the Russia narrative.
s0nicfan 1 day ago#45
byron posted...
Your opinion means less than nothing lmao


That's because you're blind with partisan rage.
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byron 1 day ago#46
s0nicfan posted...
byron posted...
Your opinion means less than nothing lmao


That's because you're blind with partisan rage.

Nice projection!
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s0nicfan 1 day ago#48
CrimsonRage posted...
i'm blind with crimson rage


The madman! He's so full of rage that his rage-blindness has a color!
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