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https://www.yahoo.com/news/epa-chief-says-administration-roll-150239621.html
EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt says the Trump administration will abandon the Obama-era clean power plan aimed at reducing global warming. *sigh* |
BUMP this up.
(We can't have posts with just "BUMP" anymore?) |
LolTownz posted...
this all could have been avoided if the left had prioritized the economy and the climate during the campaign every time people say this it continues to get more and more dumb |
I hate this f***ing administration so much.
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metralo posted...
LolTownz posted...this all could have been avoided if the left had prioritized the economy and the climate during the campaign only because instead of learning, the left keeps going deeper and deeper into identity politics insanity |
LolTownz posted...
metralo posted...LolTownz posted...this all could have been avoided if the left had prioritized the economy and the climate during the campaign Oh please. Go spew that nonsense somewhere else. |
The appointment of Pruitt is the single worst thing Trump has done so far.
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Pitbuller_26 posted...
LolTownz posted...metralo posted...LolTownz posted...this all could have been avoided if the left had prioritized the economy and the climate during the campaign want another 4 years of trump? keep doubling down on identity want someone good? go back to being about the economy and the environment and healthcare |
From what I understand (which admittedly is very little)...the EPA under Obama's administration grew its power far beyond what was originally intended for the office, so that it was overstepping its powers to legislate environmental protections for states, rather than letting states decide for themselves. So while the ends (reduce global warming) may be noble, the means (more or less unfettered power for the EPA) was a dangerous move and needed to be reversed
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HypnoCoosh posted...
f*** obama That was pretty weak. |
DifferentialEquation posted...
Spooking posted...Obama tried to overreach, and the current administration is just correcting past wrongs. Why was it overreach?
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sellerdore posted...
From what I understand (which admittedly is very little)...the EPA under Obama's administration grew its power far beyond what was originally intended for the office, so that it was overstepping its powers to legislate environmental protections for states, rather than letting states decide for themselves. So while the ends (reduce global warming) may be noble, the means (more or less unfettered power for the EPA) was a dangerous move and needed to be reversed you're wasting your breath, tbqh. the people here are never going to be okay with less government in any capacity. |
LordRazziel posted...
Why was it overreach? https://www.wsj.com/articles/pruitts-clean-power-break-1507489415 Opinion piece, sure, but consider the following: The Obama EPA imposed the rule in 2015 to regulate carbon emissions nationwide and force the retirement of coal-fired electric power plants. Former EPA chief Gina McCarthy took creative license by reinterpreting Section 111 of the Clean Air Act, which directs the agency to implement the “best system of emission reduction” for pollutants. EPA had previously applied this provision narrowly to single sources of emissions (e.g., individual power plants), but Ms. McCarthy broke with decades of precedent to dictate a systemic shift in power generation. The Clean Power Plan initially requires new efficiency at coal-fired plants, but over time it impels states to substitute coal with natural gas and ultimately solar and wind. This usurped the regulatory role of states and contradicted the Clean Air Act text, which says that “air pollution control at its source is the primary responsibility of States and local governments.” The Clean Power Plan would have forced states to scramble to alter their electric-power mix, shutting down coal plants long before the end of their useful life regardless of whether substitutes were on hand and affordable. Higher electricity costs and brownouts were likely. The Supreme Court stayed the rule in February 2016 after 27 states and 37 electric co-ops sued. In March Mr. Pruitt launched a formal review of the rule, and a draft of the EPA’s new analysis that we’ve seen estimates that rescinding the carbon rule would save $33 billion in compliance costs by 2030. It also finds that the Obama EPA rigged the cost-benefit calculations. For example, the McCarthy EPA claimed tangential benefits from reductions of other emissions like particulate matter that could have been achieved with less heavy-handed regulation. U.S. social costs were compared against global climate benefits. Ms. McCarthy also assumed linear health benefits from emissions reductions notwithstanding diminishing returns. In violation of the Office and Management and Budget’s longstanding practice, energy efficiency was cited as an avoided cost rather than as a benefit. This allowed the Obama Administration to low-ball the rule’s cost estimate.
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HypnoCoosh posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...HypnoCoosh posted...f*** obama Did I strike a nerve? All I'm looking for is a little effort. HypnoCoosh posted... VipaGTS posted...Obama took us 3 steps forward. Dumbass (aka Trump) taking us 30 steps backwards. You really must be having a bad day. |
LolTownz posted...
sellerdore posted...From what I understand (which admittedly is very little)...the EPA under Obama's administration grew its power far beyond what was originally intended for the office, so that it was overstepping its powers to legislate environmental protections for states, rather than letting states decide for themselves. So while the ends (reduce global warming) may be noble, the means (more or less unfettered power for the EPA) was a dangerous move and needed to be reversed Spare me the “we just want less government” bull s***. Most people who say that are perfectly fine with more government as long as it goes along with something they want or support. Stop making it about “more or less” government and make t about what’s best for the country. If they are using their power to do something that isn’t good, don’t say “I disagree with this because we want less government!”...say “I disagree with this because this thing is bad...here’s why”...this fight for “less government” accomplished nothing and opens no dialog to the actual issues at hand.
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VipaGTS posted...
LolTownz posted...sellerdore posted...From what I understand (which admittedly is very little)...the EPA under Obama's administration grew its power far beyond what was originally intended for the office, so that it was overstepping its powers to legislate environmental protections for states, rather than letting states decide for themselves. So while the ends (reduce global warming) may be noble, the means (more or less unfettered power for the EPA) was a dangerous move and needed to be reversed holy strawman batman |
UnholyMudcrab posted...
The appointment of Pruitt is the single worst thing Trump has done so far. Agreed. When I watched the senate hearing for Pruitt and all the accusations, it scared me that such a man was going to be given this power. Someone who sued the EPA 19 times. A man who was part of the state administration in a state that has quake problems..... and isn't even on the edge of a tectonic plate. The s*** he has said.... it's just..... terrifying. And of course, the GOP allowed him in because "Hey, he is a Republican. That is all that matters" ... I am glad more GOP senators are finally seeing most of this bulls***. I feel like it is only going to get harder to push things through the senate now.
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x_SaintBoot_x posted...
jayj350 posted...ImAMarvel posted...I hate this f***ing administration so much. Killed it!
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metralo posted...
LolTownz posted...this all could have been avoided if the left had prioritized the economy and the climate during the campaign It's an account from 2010 with 8 karma. Either it's a very inactive account or they just constantly get modded. |
Tmaster148 posted...
metralo posted...LolTownz posted...this all could have been avoided if the left had prioritized the economy and the climate during the campaign Probably an alt for another account that recently got suspended or something. |
jayj350 posted...
ImAMarvel posted...I hate this f***ing administration so much. Yeah, this era will be seen as an embarrassment in the future. Were_Wyrm posted... Better change your name to Coal_Crimson :/ |
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