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Trump thinks Scientology should lose tax-exempt status

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Tmaster148 20 hours ago#1
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/359730-trump-thinks-scientology-should-lose-its-tax-exempt-status

President Trump has thrown his support behind removing the Church of Scientology's tax-exempt status, according to a Huffington Post report.

Twitter messages from a Trump family friend and top official at the Department of Housing and Urban Development claim that Trump and his family "couldn't agree more" that the church should lose its tax-exempt status.


This isn't something be made into policy and likely probably would be hard to accomplish. But if Trump could accomplish this, this would be something good.
Funkydog  question him ALWAYS20 hours ago#2
Hopefully he can get it done.

Scientology is a disgusting thing that should lose any and all benefits and its leaders imprisoned for the horrible shit they do.
josifrees 20 hours ago#3
Can’t wait for Scientologists reaction to this. 

Murder?
Sue?
Infiltration?

Mfers are crazy and dangerous
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Unsugarized_Foo 20 hours ago#4
They're weak now
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brotrrwinner 20 hours ago#5
Yeeeeeeaah....... this'll never happen
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Aristoph 20 hours ago#6
Literally the first thing I've agreed with Trump on.
m_mungmung 20 hours ago#7
This would probably work in favour for Scientology in terms of public sympathy, considering the antagonism he inspires against himself.
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bkkorps 20 hours ago#8
now he just needs to expand the scope to some other groups as well.
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iamintents 20 hours ago#9
ThePrinceFish 20 hours ago#10
josifrees posted...
Can’t wait for Scientologists reaction to this. 

Murder?
Sue?
Infiltration?

Mfers are crazy and dangerous

They'll do what they did the first time. Lawyer up en masse and cause so much trouble for the IRS they get their status back.
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CiIantro 20 hours ago#11
brotrrwinner posted...
Yeeeeeeaah....... this'll never happen

This. Religious exemptions are an all-or-nothing thing. You can't pick and choose.
zDonKEY_K0ngz 20 hours ago#12
m_mungmung posted...
This would probably work in favour for Scientology in terms of public sympathy, considering the antagonism he inspires against himself.


i'd honestly be sympathetic with trump over the church of scientology, and i absolutely fucking despise everything about trump. that's how awful the church of scientology is and its (powerful) members are.
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Tmaster148 20 hours ago#13
CiIantro posted...
brotrrwinner posted...
Yeeeeeeaah....... this'll never happen

This. Religious exemptions are an all-or-nothing thing. You can't pick and choose.


Scientology really shouldn't be considered a religion, though that would be hard to revoke their status and it's not like Scientology leaders wouldn't fight to keep it.
obeseexplosive 20 hours ago#14
CiIantro posted...
brotrrwinner posted...
Yeeeeeeaah....... this'll never happen

This. Religious exemptions are an all-or-nothing thing. You can't pick and choose.

Sadly
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ChromaticAngel 20 hours ago#15
CiIantro posted...
brotrrwinner posted...
Yeeeeeeaah....... this'll never happen

This. Religious exemptions are an all-or-nothing thing. You can't pick and choose.

This, but I'm on the side of no religions should be tax exempt.
FL81 20 hours ago#16
ScazarMeltex 20 hours ago#17
It's not a good idea to let the president or government in general decide which churches get tax exempt status. I despise Scientology as much as any sane thinking person but this is road you don't want to go down. Personally I don't think any church should be tax exempt, but it's all or nothing. Otherwise you start allowing the persecution of religions the government doesn't like via removal of their tax exempt statuses.
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Funkydog  question him ALWAYS20 hours ago#18
ScazarMeltex posted...
It's not a good idea to let the president or government in general decide which churches get tax exempt status. I despise Scientology as much as any sane thinking person but this is road you don't want to go down.

I mean, Scientology isn't a religion. It is just a scam and abusive cult that threatens those who speak ill of them.
ScazarMeltex 20 hours ago#19
Funkydog posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
It's not a good idea to let the president or government in general decide which churches get tax exempt status. I despise Scientology as much as any sane thinking person but this is road you don't want to go down.

I mean, Scientology isn't a religion. It is just a scam and abusive cult that threatens those who speak ill of them.


Then prosecute them to the full extent of the law. The Catholic church has easily done as much damage to individuals as Scientology, seeing as how there was/is an institutional cover up of the molestation of thousands of children over the last 50-60 years, but you don't see Trump calling for an end to their tax exempt status. Why? Because they are a mainstream religion.
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not__shawn__z 20 hours ago#20
CE : WTF I love Scientology, trump is fucking Hitler!!!!
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Funkydog  question him ALWAYS20 hours ago#21
ScazarMeltex posted...
Funkydog posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
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I mean, Scientology isn't a religion. It is just a scam and abusive cult that threatens those who speak ill of them.


Then prosecute them to the full extent of the law. The Catholic church has easily done as much damage to individuals as Scientology, seeing as how there was/is an institutional cover up of the molestation of thousands of children over the last 50-60 years, but you don't see Trump calling for an end to their tax exempt status. Why? Because they are a mainstream religion.

People involved in that should be charged and jailed. And many have been, afaik.
Vertania 20 hours ago#22
It should. Watch how many celebrities suddenly abandon Scientology if it does.
Tmaster148 20 hours ago#23
not__shawn__z posted...
CE : WTF I love Scientology, trump is fucking Hitler!!!!


I have yet to see anyone say that.
not__shawn__z 20 hours ago#24
Tmaster148 posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
CE : WTF I love Scientology, trump is fucking Hitler!!!!


I have yet to see anyone say that.


Its a joke refencing the loony anti trump people on this forum. Did you really need me to explain that it was tongue in cheek and not an actual quote? Cmon
Tmaster148 20 hours ago#25
not__shawn__z posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
not__shawn__z posted...
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I have yet to see anyone say that.


Its a joke refencing the loony anti trump people on this forum. Did you really need me to explain that it was tongue in cheek and not an actual quote? Cmon


It's rather hard to tell, especially on this board.
DemonBuffet 20 hours ago#26
Aristoph posted...
Literally the first thing I've agreed with Trump on.
Trololol
epik_fail1 19 hours ago#27
FL81 posted...
Scientology isn't a religion, it's a pyramid scheme


It's kind of sad that pyramid schemes and scientology are so painfully similar.
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ScazarMeltex 19 hours ago#28
Funkydog posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
Funkydog posted...
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Then prosecute them to the full extent of the law. The Catholic church has easily done as much damage to individuals as Scientology, seeing as how there was/is an institutional cover up of the molestation of thousands of children over the last 50-60 years, but you don't see Trump calling for an end to their tax exempt status. Why? Because they are a mainstream religion.

People involved in that should be charged and jailed. And many have been, afaik.


Not nearly enough, not really even a good percentage. The following contains all the collated data from 1950-2016. 
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/USCCB_Yearly_Data_on_Accused_Priests.htm
Then there is also this UN report from 2014 that shows that the Vatica "systematically placed preservation of the reputation of the church and the alleged offender over the protection of child victims."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-n-report-vatican-policies-allowed-priests-rape-children-n22531

Look, like I said, I agree with every single bad thing said about scientology. It's a creepy pyramid scheme cult, but letting the Government pick and choose starts a bad precedent and would allow the dismantling of freedom of religion in this country based on the preferences of whatever regime happens to be in power.
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BLAKUboy 19 hours ago#29
CiIantro posted...
brotrrwinner posted...
Yeeeeeeaah....... this'll never happen

This. Religious exemptions are an all-or-nothing thing. You can't pick and choose.

Good thing Scientology isn't a religion then.
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CiIantro 19 hours ago#30
Tmaster148 posted...
CiIantro posted...
brotrrwinner posted...
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This. Religious exemptions are an all-or-nothing thing. You can't pick and choose.


Scientology really shouldn't be considered a religion, though that would be hard to revoke their status and it's not like Scientology leaders wouldn't fight to keep it.

There are a ton of cults that are tax-exempt. The government legally cant just go picking and choosing though. They need to revoke it for all religions tbh.
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FigureOfSpeech 19 hours ago#31
I agree completely with the OP. I doubt it will happen, but if it trump pulls it off, I will, as a trump hater, give him due credit in praise for it should he actually make it happen.
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armandro 19 hours ago#32
ugh
why is trump still against science and global warming
did this guy go to schooL?
KazumaKiryu 19 hours ago#33
Scientology is a cult that preys on people trying to make something of themselves in Hollywood. They promise you fame and fortune in exchange for money, and once you're in, they don't let you get out.
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Tmaster148 19 hours ago#34
armandro posted...
ugh
why is trump still against science and global warming
did this guy go to schooL?


Don't let the name Scientology fool you. It has nothing to do with science.
ChromaticAngel 19 hours ago#35
Tmaster148 posted...
armandro posted...
ugh
why is trump still against science and global warming
did this guy go to schooL?


Don't let the name Scientology fool you. It has nothing to do with science.


The name comes from the fact that it's basically Science-Fiction. It's not a coincidental name. It was deliberately chosen as such.
Kineth  BLM sympathizer19 hours ago#36
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Tmaster148 19 hours ago#37
ChromaticAngel posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
armandro posted...
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Don't let the name Scientology fool you. It has nothing to do with science.


The name comes from the fact that it's basically Science-Fiction. It's not a coincidental name. It was deliberately chosen as such.


Yeah. The creator of scientology was a science fiction writer and scientology basically uses on of his books for gospel IIRC.
epik_fail1 19 hours ago#38
KazumaKiryu posted...
Scientology is a cult that preys on people trying to make something of themselves in Hollywood. They promise you fame and fortune in exchange for money, and once you're in, they don't let you get out.


That indeed sound like some people I know who joined pyramid schemes.
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Mal_Fet 19 hours ago#39
Watch CNN suddenly support scientology.
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Electrokinesis 19 hours ago#40
This would be amazing.
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FigureOfSpeech 19 hours ago#41
Mal_Fet posted...
Watch CNN suddenly support scientology.


What the actual fuck mal. I get the context of the joke har har but that is a low blow even for you... thinking "hated, fake, godless" liberal news would support scientology just because trump opposed it. Not cool, friend. Not cool.
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Mal_Fet 19 hours ago#42
FigureOfSpeech posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Watch CNN suddenly support scientology.


What the actual fuck mal. I get the context of the joke har har but that is a low blow even for you... thinking "hated, fake, godless" liberal news would support scientology just because trump opposed it. Not cool, friend. Not cool.

Remember when they hated TPP but then got mad when Trump did away with it?
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ChromaticAngel 19 hours ago#43
Mal_Fet posted...
Remember when they hated TPP but then got mad when Trump did away with it?

No.

Cause that never happened.
Kineth  BLM sympathizer19 hours ago#44
Well, Mal_Fet isn't a cool person so that's par for the course.
If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply.
not__shawn__z 19 hours ago#45
ChromaticAngel posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Remember when they hated TPP but then got mad when Trump did away with it?

No.

Cause that never happened.


Lol.

Yes it did.
MTRodaba2468 16 hours ago#46
ScazarMeltex posted...
It's not a good idea to let the president or government in general decide which churches get tax exempt status. I despise Scientology as much as any sane thinking person but this is road you don't want to go down. Personally I don't think any church should be tax exempt, but it's all or nothing. Otherwise you start allowing the persecution of religions the government doesn't like via removal of their tax exempt statuses.

This. 100%
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epik_fail1 8 hours ago#47
MTRodaba2468 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
It's not a good idea to let the president or government in general decide which churches get tax exempt status. I despise Scientology as much as any sane thinking person but this is road you don't want to go down. Personally I don't think any church should be tax exempt, but it's all or nothing. Otherwise you start allowing the persecution of religions the government doesn't like via removal of their tax exempt statuses.

This. 100%


Well... protecting scientology kinda allow the persecution of naive idiots. They may be naive, but they do not deserve the fate scientology gives them.
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Just go all-in like Germany and call it for what it is: a predatory cult.
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Ex-Kefiroth 8 hours ago#49
Aristoph posted...
Literally the first thing I've agreed with Trump on.
sharp.
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